That was one of my issues - sounded worse with a Powerline when logically (?) it shouldn’t have
Strange. But mains are strange. Eros makes also power cords, so it may be a different option if a power line doesn’t work with it.
@Darkebear has a Wireworld with powerline, so it may work very well or not, as in your case.
No reason. Just a try is possible.
I have had two versions of the WW block - first one sounded good but fell apart after a few years due to a design fault with the plastic on some sockets breaking. My Dealer let me have a free replacement new version that was far better built and also uses a solid copper bus-bar connection internally between the sockets unlike the earlier wired one.
It sounded ‘different’ - the wired one was perhaps nicer but the bus-bar one was far more focused and ‘live’ so I got used to it quick.
As said before - this block can sound truly awful if you don’t sequence the plug-in order - but if you do then it seems to work very well in an Active Statement system is really all I can say - and I’m fussy.
Probably there are far better blocks to be had and I’m sure there is another upgrade for me to be had in future.
Compared to a cheap commercial plastic block the WW2 was far clearer in terms of resolution and lower noise-floor.
Also with commercial blocks - the ones without the ‘on’ LED sound far less noisy.
I use a Powerline feeding the block and all items from it.
I once tried a 6-way block - albeit an early version of what most people use and preferred - and hated what it did to my system; it sounded like a soft wallowing mess, so that block was rejected and I continue with the Matrix block for now.
DB.
Does anybody try the Furutech power distributors with Naim?
I have no doubt it works well with your system DB.
Mine is far from equivalent so perhaps it just isn’t good enough to appreciate the benefits or resolve those differences.
I strongly feel that we always are at the mercy of synergy of components with high or low end systems/connections, not to forget room characteristics.
As I say I have no reason to doubt you are satisified with the powerstrip, and please don’t misconstrue any of my comments as personal - yes, I noted you had one some time ago, and did the same with alternatives used by others and some I demoed - the pricepoint was fair and if it didn’t work for me no reason it doesn’t for you or others.
BW
AC
Agree
I didn’t - sorry if I came across wrong, I was just trying to describe my experience.
I do believe there are far better blocks to be had - and that it will be system-dependent to an extent.
Just because I manage to use an item successfully does not mean I think it the best - in fact I love reading it is not that good as then there is room for an improvement!
DB.
What did you do that led to these improvements?
Think he just plugged his NAP500 into the wall socket.
Interesting observation FR. My past & present experience is almost the opposite.
I’m borderline OCD on power cords and mains in general. Always fiddling with power cords, my spur, connections, fuses (from the spur), making my own power cords etc. to learn and compare. I’ve spend a small fortune on professional crimping tools, torque screwdrivers, parts’n all that.
The power cable to the wall, or the cable from a spur, is indeed very important. But all the connections (connectors/plugs, sockets, their plating(!) etc.) in the chain - a lot usually - are at least as important as the cables themselves. In many cases even more in my experience. Right up to the way the conductors are connected.
As an example - I made two identical power cords for the Farad PSU on my switch. Using the good old tried & tested Belden 19364 with identical Furutech E28/38 connectors at both ends. The screws in the connectors set exactly with the same torque etc. The only difference were the crimp sleeves. One with Furutech gold plated sleeves, the other one with Sinnoxx bare (red) copper sleeves. Comparing both power cords, it’s really hard to believe how big the sonic difference is between the two cables. Just crimp sleeves…
In my system, the power strip - with all its connections, sockets & plugs - has a bigger influence on SQ than swapping out the 15 meters of cable from my spur.
Sorry for rambling on this long.
I did. Both the TP60E block and the TP66E strip were quite good. Especially if you like the somewhat smooth and polished sound that many Furutech products share. I preferred the Puritan PS108 in my system but it’s a little more expensive.
If you do strip them both please take photos and post them on here for comparison.
There’s a ytube video showing the assembly of a supra 6 way power-strip. It’s quite well and neatly put together. I do prefer my own olsen hosp. grade strip over previous ones. The internals are very neat compared to some i’ve seen esp the WW matrix 2 one.
A really good power cord to the wall is also very important, even a bit more important vs the powerblock itself. So a powerline at minimum, I feel… Chord music is mine power cord to wall…need a very good strip to fit.
Yes …plugged my 500 straight to the wall…i think it because my matrix strip isn`t good enough
I don’t know where is the truth, but I often read that in different reviews. It’s also my experience. But we have all very different experiences. Power, mains, switches…seem to give very opposite results sometimes.
Makes sense in some cases
Very much my experience with ensuring mains good quality all along … and I have not found any single cable nearly as impactful and important as the benefit of a good mains block once you hear it in place.
I honestly do not understand why people would put a basic bus bar block in front of a decent, let alone high end system, and apart from may be a Muso? Of course, what follows is one reaches directly for the wall to avoid the block and start playing with it to minimise the harm. But I understand good blocks are not cheap and initially I also tried several (too many) only to realise how important it is, it impacts everything and is as key (and more) as anything on your hifi stand.
I would agree, and especially as you have a very good mains block
I have tried different power cables, Powerline, Nordost, Kharma, Chord, and Isotek. I have now an expensive Kharma from the wall, a Chord Sarum t from 555 dr, and Kharma matrix ( 700 euros) for all my components.
I tried to swap all the cables, tried the big Kharma on my 250 dr , Ear 912, Kharma matrix on the power wall.
The most significant result was putting the big Kharma from the wall.
I agree that powerblock is the fundamental part. But can’t understand how anyone can connect a cheap power cord between the wall and the powerblock. It makes no sense for me.
Life does not make sense in many cases.
I like the sound of what is said about the Puritan PS108…but I don’t understand the filtration points…is no filtration good or bad or any less protective of the components?