Roon sold to Harman. Implications?

I’m referring to any reference of discussion on any forums other than this one.

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But those limitations are declared by Linn, not a Roon problem or?

Linn DSM/3 and others of the latest generation supports up to 384 kHz/24 bit and DSD 256.

I stream my local files at DSD 256 and it is downsampled to DSD 128 by Roon.

Is it frustrating? Yes, definitely.

So my workaround is to use the Linn native Kazoo.

I am going to throw it out there, but I cannot tell the difference between standard and hi def if its the same recording.

Has it been said quite a few times in this forum?

The big difficulty is knowing whether the same mastering… I did some comparisons from definitely the same masterings, released for just this purpose by the Norwegian label 2L (right up to 24/352 IIRC). I did feel I that in most cases I could hear a difference between 16/44 and higher resolutions, but in reality only very slight. Best description I’ve heard is “like more air around the instruments” - somehow slightly greater ambience. But it was subtle.
(That was through Chord Dave DAC, Bryston amps (active tri-amped), PMC EB1i speakers on bass with ATC’s 3" sft dome SM75-150 mid and Scanspeak tweeter.)

If you would like the best upsampling performance you will need to use HQPlayer. Much of a difference, improvement. There is also a free trial.

But let’s get back to the topic :slight_smile:

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Yes, let’s get back to the topic.

This is my last post about the Roon issue in support of the Linn products for those who do not have a clue on how the Linn streamers work - HQPlayer only output to the Linn streamers via SPDIF or USB or whatever physically connects to the streamers, not via ethernet/wifi, and the problem is that the Linn streamers only accepts DSD input stream via a network interface. Linn do not support HQPlayer/NAA

PS: Thanks @Markush8 for recommending the HQPlayer, as a long time HQPlayer user, I quite like it, and I am using it for various audio purposes in the house, especially in place of the MScaler to upsample to a Chord DAC, which I use in the context of AV.

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To be honest everything I have read about linn and hq player Is that it is not worth doing due to the upsampling/ conversion that linn does anyway.

I thought the organic Dac was certainly good enough not to need hqplayer when I tried it.

Anyway back to Roon :wink:

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Thanks @Ryder35, you seem to be the only one who really knows how the Linn products work. :slight_smile:
Let’s not waste time on it, all I am saying is that I am deeply disappointed by the Roon attitude with regards to support/service.

One Implication - the cost though. Thought it was just a NUC!

“Roon Labs and Harman International Unveil Groundbreaking Nucleus Titan at CES 2024”

Nucleus Titan is Roon’s new flagship server. It fuses precision manufacturing and hardware customization with unsurpassed design. Customers choose from three customizable shell material options – metal, stone, and wood – to create a one-of-a-kind server/streamer statement piece perfectly matched to their tastes and listening space. Nucleus Titan, starting at $3,699 base price (U.S.) is the only choice for those seeking a premium Roon server that promises a superlative Roon experience paired with breathtaking visual appeal.

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1/10th the price for the same thing in a plain box?

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And what do I get that is much better with the Titan vs say a Mac mini M2?

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“Stunning aesthetics, designed for display and admiration”

Apparently.

I feel it maybe somewhat wasted in my network cupboard where the existing Roon Rock NUC lives!

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Fairy dust, an empty wallet and consequential bad feeling?

Looks nice! It is made for the audiophiles with more money than sense market.
I am sure it does not sound better than a $300 NUC.

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Roon nucleus is real ripoff on audiophiles, they could overcharge for the software and custom box, but they overcharge a huge amount of money, and that makes the product a bad really bad value, and also needs a license of Roon.

For thet price a lifetime license should be included, and even then I think is not a logical purchase.

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The same must of course be said of melco or naim servers.

A server, if doing its function of serving, can be in a cardboard box, the point to a server is put it out the way and let it do its thing, you can use an old dell optiplex for that for 70 quid.

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