Roon update tomorrow

did my update last night in nuc11 and its noticeably smoother and faster, i wait to see if it is less demanding on the nuc as recently the fan has ben coming on regularly so i will also see if i can clean the fan and dust vents anyway.

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Updated my nucleus yesterday.. library searches are faster but still a short pause when selecting qobuz initially on fire up for the day.. guess its caching during the pause as response is then subsequently ok.

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I did on my Zen Mini MkIII. No issues here.

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Thanks for replying, much appreciated.

I updated my Zen Mini 3 as well. I just had to restart the Zen. My Roon favourites were missing but a refresh in Roon sorted that.

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Hi all,

So as discussed my Qnap was not up to the job of new Roon update.

I had a “brief” go at configuring it for the update and figured right that’s it..lifes too short and im not a PC tech wizzard!

My thoughts as per my purchase of the Uniti Core was that rather than “fiddling” with a PC I’ll buy a dedicated server like the Core that just rips my music and plays.

So I’ve ended with a Dem Roon Nucleus one and I’ve just plugged it in. Done the update and bingo…I’m in. Dam, inital listening is that the audio quality to my ears is far superior to my old Qnap.

So, the Qnap stays and does the job for which it was designed, to back up My stuff!

I now have the Bank holiday weekend to explore and enjoy Roon. I brought a lifetime subscription a lifetime ago before kids and marriage!! I lost connection with it. A few months ago i thought id give it a go, especially Arc which i love.

So, I’m up and running and enjoying music…as always!

It does sound rather nice. I’m happy to stay with this rather than upgrade to the Titan….for now :wink:

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Yes, a dedicated server for Roon Server seems to be better than trying to run it on a NAS or a general purpose machine, even if it is just networked.

I use NAS unit for networked storage only and have no storage connected to my Roon Server.

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By the way, does anyone here know how to disable the creation of “RoonServer_log.txt” files or turn off the internal debug-level verbosity or maybe I will need to search the Roon Community? It’s extremely verbose.

PS: After a few minutes of searching and troubleshooting, I noticed that there are some debug flags in the Linux/Ubuntu startup scripts, such as those located in “/opt/RoonServer/Server/RoonServer” and “/opt/RoonServer/Appliance/RoonAppliance”. Removing this flag doesn’t prevent standard debug logging or the creation of log files. It seems that this flag is used internally, but standard operational logging is hardcoded into Roon’s core functionality. OK, c’est la vie!!!

I must say that I never paid any attention to the Roon log files or their debugging methodology until the recent CDN issue which was really very disrupting.

I think I need help…all I’ve done since Saturday morning is explore Quboz via the Nucleus and o my…it sounds fabulous!

There are take away cartons, empty beer bottles everywhere :joy: :joy:

Suffice to say for all the wrong reasons this has forced me down an unexpected road which to be honest I’m really happy about!

I’m chuffed with Roon. There’s a lot to like and not a lot to dislike for me.

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The recent updates to Roon 2.65 and EA release 2.66 seem to have resolved issues around sluggish behaviour of the Roon Server over time.

Much focus of these releases has been on the Memory usage and management, particularly as a previous release allowed certain background tasks, such as meta-date updates, library updates, etc. to be moved to a ‘Scheduled Activity’ period, normally during ‘offline’ hours when there was no playback requirement.
This actually caused required memory usage to spike during these hours and cause further issues (I had a number of server crash/restarts on my ROCK server).

With 2.65/2.66 server performance and longer stability has, so far, been returned with memory usage below the min RAM requirements for a Roon Server (8GB) for my library of 8K albums, 102k tracks. With 16GB in the NUC, there is much more memory available again for the server to operate and no need for the update to 32GB I was planning - good news.

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It’s back to the Roon of old. Lovely and responsive again, and this is on a 7 year old Nucleus.

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Hi Sean - been on holiday in Tasmania - sorry didn’t reply. Several reasons - firstly VPN into home network for security/access ( allowed me to watch the Hull City playoff final on Sky from Hobart last Sat :wink: - up the tigers :slight_smile: ). Secondly I prefer my remote NAS to communicate that way rather than opening ports on Unify gateway. I can also use it to access my music library remotely but tbh I don’t bother and just use Qobuz on the iPhone. Just need to remember not to cycle the local roon streaming to my DS via their servers!

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Further Roon release made, majoring on performance within the Roon Server.

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My Intel NUC running ROCK 24/7 for the last seven years has been running a bit long in the tooth, so I ordered a Nucleus One on a 11% off holiday sale. I’ll see how that works for me. I assume I can just transfer my media file SSD from the NUC directly to the Nucleus One.

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A physical install of the existing SSD?

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I just replaced my old Nucleus with a Nucleus One. I removed the SSD, with my music on, from the old Nucleus and installed on Nucleus One. Complete doddle. Roon recognised the SSD with no problems at all.

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Yes, I have a 1 TB SSD in the NUC, with all my music files.

Well then you might ok, with just moving over the physical SSD device.
Normally RoonOS wants to format any additional device fitted.
So you will have to restore a RoonOS database, but the 1TB of files could be moved.
I presume you had that backed up, especially as a smallish library.

Sorry I thought you were looking at trying to transfer multiple TBs.

Mine is at least 10TB

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No, I only have about 400GBs of files. I stopped buying any digital media about 8 years ago.

My Intel NUC runs ROCK just like a Nucleus does, so there should be no reason it doesn’t just recognize the drive.

I have a backup of the database.

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@JosquinDesPrez

I don’t know if you have the opportunity to do so, but if you can I would recommend testing a restore of the backup you intend to use.

When I moved from RockOS to DietPi (on same system) I didn’t test before hand and the one backup I needed to use turned out to be corrupt. Couldn’t restore it and Roon support could not rescue it.

In the big scheme of things, definitely first world. But it meant a rebuild on my part.