Thanks. Are you talking about the database? I’m not really too worried about it. My file library isn’t all that big, and I can rebuild it. I mostly don’t even use it since I have Qobuz.
Yes, the db. I was the same in that I didn’t have a huge library but did miss elements that I’d built up over time that needed manual curation again.
If you don’t have a local library, I imagine the effort will be low but if you have grouped albums between local and Qobuz (like I did/have) then re-doing all that was a (minor) pain. Any metadata updates, anything manually adjusted essentially - all required repeating.
Your situation sounds low risk - good luck!
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Have just paid 99 cents for an 11 week Roon ‘re-trial’. Haven’t really missed it despite paying for several years previously.
Anything I should know due to recent updates?
Cost cutting was part of the previous decision as I’m happy with Audirvana currently, but also related to only 8GB RAM on current Mac Mini. I have a new unopened 24GB M4 Pro one should I decide to keep it.
Ive used Roon for many years and I’ve never noticed anything radically different from update to update. I assume most of the updates are in the code. The UI is to me basically the same.
It’s yet to outgrow the Roon Nucleus I bought to run it on years ago . . . so far so good! It runs plenty fast for me here at home.
Ive never gotten ARC to work outside of my home, despite a few half-hearted tries. Something about network security I’m sure, although I use default settings on my FiOS router and Netgear stuff. If I cared more I’d try harder, I suppose.
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The one thing which annoyed me a few years aho was that Roon ditched the ability to view my Qobuz purchases and merged them with the offline library. Spunds trivial but was a quick way to view those digital purchases alone.
Two recent changes that I quite like are there is a section called listen later so if you see an album on Qobuz or Tidal for that matter that you want to go back to later you do not have to add it to your library. You can click listen later and it’s kept in a list.
Another seemingly small in enhancement but I do find it very useful is that in the views of albums to date added, alphabetical, by artist etc. is added a random view, which as the name suggests gives a random view of your library. Great when you’ve no idea what to listen to.
Arc is great, I love having my HD of music available on holidays and during travel.
.sjb
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Just to add my bit … updated my Audiostore server a couple of days ago. No problems. Not put it to a lengthy listen test, but searching for new stuff is faster.
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Yes, I really like this feature. I use it all the time.
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Also took up on that offer from Roon. As I’m on Linux I had hoped that Convolution would be available in MUSE. But it isn’t (yet), only for Mac and Windows. Audirvāna has implemented that since 3.0 which is actually one of the features that I really came to value most. It enabled me to tweak the sound so much to my personal preference when listening to headphones that this has become almost a must have for me.
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That is odd, maybe I don’t understand exactly what you are saying? I am on Ubuntu, and MUSE Convolution has always been there, in fact nothing is missing.
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The moment I wanted to add convolution on my Linux Mint laptop Roon stated that it was not available for this operating system.
I will try another time.
I see, maybe your version of Linux is special? Maybe the Roon staff know why or try Ubuntu instead.
I just checked out with Gemini, this is it says:
Worth noting for your setup — Dirac Live does not support Linux natively, as users migrating to Mint have confirmed. If room correction via Dirac is important to you, you’d need to either run it as a convolution filter exported from Dirac (then loaded into Roon), or keep Dirac on a separate Windows/Mac machine.
Mint and Ubuntu are both Debian based, so Id assume it should work. Will try later tonight.
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Have been trying again. I can enable convolution, but when I want to upload IR filters then I get the message that that’s not possible in Linux. And then convolution is useless.
So you are right.
I think Roon explicitly mentions that it does not yet support loading convolution filters from mobile devices. This must be done by the Roon App on a Mac or Windows computer. I note that this constraint applies to all headless Roon Server boxes. So you would come across this issue if you use Mint laptop as a Roon remote and server device.
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Sadly, it’s still do it the new Roon way.
I can’t filter by Qobuz purchased - they assume the purchases are available on local/NAS storage. so there’s no option of just showing my Purchases to stream via internet (as I can do with Naim/Focal app and Audirvana).
I didn’t want to add local storage, just view Qobuz Favourites/Purchases but only see Qobuz Favourites. If I filter by Favourites I get nothing so that’s presumably ‘Roon Library Favourites’.
Don’t think I explicitly added my Music folder (may have thinking this was the Roon music folder) but it did and scanned it which I didn’t want. Obviously missing something as this is likely user ignorance/error but I can’t quite figure out how to see what the source of the Roon Library entry is by clicking/right clicking on a title.
All sounds rather thin and polite compared to Audirvana on brief testing via external DAC in the study not via main system. That may be good or bad.
Also found it odd that on quitting Roon to start Audirvana to compare the music carried on playing as quitting Roon didn’t stop the Roon server, can maybe see the point for remote/ARC access but would be handy to have a selection to quite dekstop app or do so and quit local Roon Server as well.
I’m not sure what you’re looking to so, but the Roon ‘focus’ feature might help. This allows you to filter by file location, e.g.local storage, Qobuz, etc
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Tag is better in my view.
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Thanks I looked there but there’s no option to just show Roon Purchases.
We all do things differently, but the Qobuz API allows 3rd party apps (eg Naim or Audirvana) to display a list of Purchased titles. Roon used to allow this as well but I think they made the assumption some years ago that people would have their purchases downloaded either to local/attached external storage or NAS which would then be available in the overall Roon library. Many people will do precisely that and it works.
While I always try to download multiple copies my old WD NAS was retired as it became a security risk and I honestly don’t want another NAS currently. I would not have enough capacity on the internal SSD of my Mac Mini to hold all purchases in hi-res, so would have to use always powered up external higher capacity drives/SSDs. Naim app and Audirvana allow me to do what I want with my Qobuz purchases without having them available locally or on the LAN. You could argue I shouldn’t ever make Qobuz purchases if I only stream from the internet with certain apps but title availability changes, things get removed and I bought a lot years ago when I broadband was much slower.
Hope that makes some kind of sense, I think it would have been trivial for them to not only list Qobuz favourite tracks/albums/artists and playlists but add purchases too with an option not to if they’re all available locally to avoid duplicates.
As you say, we all have different priorities and requirements, but I really struggle to understand how you’d play your purchased files if they’re not on a local drive or LAN? Is it that you just want to ‘see’ them if you then want to play them, at which stage you fire up the appropriate drive? If so, that puts you in a really tiny subset of a subset of a subset
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If you used a Nucelus you could fit an 8Tb internal SSD; that would accommodate a vast library. You could ‘tag’ these files as ‘purchased’, or specify a location as ‘purchased’. That way ‘focus’ and/or ‘tags’ would work and you could select whichever file you want to play. Even directly compare a purchased file vs the downloaded version (as you know, Roon will show all ‘versions’ of available albums/tracks). The power consumption of an internal SSD is tiny and SSDs son’t wear in the same fashion as HDDs.
I separate local files vs streamed using ‘focus’ for the rare occaaion whwn I just want to choose from my rips.
Back now to listening to Mr. McCartney’s latest (which is his best solo work for ages past). Qobuz Connect vs Qobuz via Roon vs local CD playback. The latter has the edge!