From what I’ve seen, it says “error loading config file” regardless. Did it actually make a config file for you?
Eg instructions provided by Ayon
From what I’ve seen, it says “error loading config file” regardless. Did it actually make a config file for you?
Eg instructions provided by Ayon
Yes it did. I then change the parameters as suggested, I still can’t locate my NDS.
I know it can be frustrating … I started with trying the LMS2upnp but got nowhere. I then tried Rpi with some success. After a while I returned to the LMS software and got it to work with the help of this forum.
I can only suggest perseverance …
I run the software on my MacMini, the Roon core is on an Audiostore music server. I manage multi room (NDS and Unitiqutes) through the Naim app with Roon supplying the interface.
Thanks Robert.
Thanks to your “anon” notes, I finally can make it work.
now the NDS saying “Streaming from MLS”
Will they convert to WAV or in FLAC?
Check in the extension options in roon, i think you can switch between pcm and flac.
Just uncheck the FLAC compression, ow is converted into PCM, neat.
Does anyone know how to move the command to my QNAP NAS as RoonCore so I don’t have to use my MAC?
Appreciated.
You can run the UPNPBridge as a plugin to Logitech Media Server (LMS)
LMS can be run within a container on a QNAP. It’s what I have used for 2 years and it generally works very well.
Another new way is the rooUPnP which has just emerged, there are details on the Roon forum. This requires a Raspberry Pi and the payment of a small licence fee. Installation is a doddle, just download the image and create an SD card, pop it into the Pi and start it up. Then just setup your maximum resolution for each discovered device within the Extensions area in Roon.
I’ve switched to rooUPnP and am finding it to be excellent. The developer is very responsive too.
so I need to purchase a Rpi card/box in using the RoonUnp.
Is there any advantage over the all software approach?
Can you share how to create a container in QNAP to install the upnp scrip that will be much appreciated. I am using a TS-251A with 4.5.2 firmware.
The all software approach is more complex to implement but saves as you don’t have to buy more hardware. The Pi solution is really straightforward hence my recommendation as an alternative approach.
For installing in a container.
If you Google " Installing Logitech Media Server (SlimServer / Squeezebox Server) On QNAP" you will find a step by step guide to installing LMS on a QNAP. This gets LMS running in a container.
Then you need to configure:
Hi Trickydickie,
I am at the point where to add the extra command line of where the Roonserver is.
Do I need to download the Roonserver for my case? or is it the IP for my streamer (NDS)?
You can’t run Roon without a Roon server or Core as it is known.
The IP referred to is the Roon Core’s IP address so once you have that you should enter it in as shown.
If I am running Mac OSX, is there other similar app to WinSCP?
If I am using NDS, and planning to use QNAP to store the Upnp bridge file and use my phone/ipad as Roon interface, what is the Roon server/Core I am suppose to use as? (I don’t need a music server as I already have Core)
The Roon core is the heart of Roon. You need a Roon Core to run Roon.
If you are familiar with running a UPNP server the concept is very similar, i.e. you have a server, player and something to control it.
It appears I am not alone in how complex this can be, and the tech knowledge required, particularly without a hardware solution.
As part of this I am now confused how something like a Raspberry Pi fits in physically with a system?
I currently have Asset running as my server on my iMac which h is on the same network as my NDX & WD MyCloud Drive. WD does have its own server software and is in effect a NAS, but it is not good with WAV files & hence why I run Asset.
NDX then feeds 202 into 200 and speakers.
So how can use the Raspberry Pi? I did see some suggest to run UpNp bridge software on it, but I was still not sure how this would have fitted in a linear or networked way into the system.
I know that Roon will not run on ARM (Pi) so that would still need either a hardware or Core on my iMac.
So could the Pi hold the server for example, Asset & the bridge software…without physical connection to to NDX? I think this is what some posters had suggested.
Some posters then spoke about HiFiBerry…which also left me questions? Could you run a HiFiBerry with as NAS?..Then if you added a DAC could you then output directly to 202 or do you use the NDX as a pass through (without DAC), but this would not make sense to me…
Ultimately could a Pi or HiFiBerry handle the NAS, Streamer & DAC functions…i.e replace the NDX…( I don’t want to open a can of worms with the purists on power supply’s & SQ at this stage!)
I suppose what I looking for are simple line suggestions of what inputs into what & how, either physically or via the network.
In the bridge configuration the Pi is receiving the music from the Roon server and bridging or transmitting it on to the Naim streamer. This overcomes the limitation that Roon cannot communicate with UPNP devices, only ones that directly support Roon.
To bridge you can either use
To serve Roon you need a Roon Core. This is a bit like a UPNP Server and would take the place of say Asset or Minimserver if you currently use these.
You can run Roon Core on a variety of devices, e.g. Mac, Linux computer, Windows Computer, some NAS devices (not recommended by Roon), a Roon Nucleus or a Roon Rock which is a dedicated device that you can put together. There are some other devices you can use so this isn’t a complete list. Note: You cannot run Roon Core on a Raspberry Pi.
To use a bridge a typical setup is shown below, obviously you would have other devices on your network and a device like an iPad that you would use to select your music.
You can see that everything is interconnected on your network. Nothing connects directly to the Naim Streamer except for a network connection.
There are means to use a Raspberry Pi as a Roon endpoint. A Roon endpoint is just a fancy name for a streamer. You could for example but an end point with a digital output that feeds into the DAC in the Naim streamer.
Personally I would use a bridge solution as the performance of the Naim streamer is left untouched as it is unaware that Roon is sending the music to it so it will perform as it does now from a sound quality perspective.
Hope this helps
Hi thank you so much for the schematic, it was exactly what I was looking for, and clearly explains how it is all set up.
I have ordered a Pi 4 and will attempt to get a UpnP bridge running on it (I could net get my Pi B+ to work).
I will go back through the thread and pick ups the bridge options & instructions for doing this on a Pi rather than the iMac.
Many thanks,
Andrew
Just wondering, have you been able to do any comparisons of the two approaches, I.e. separate Roon endpoint feeding the NDS’s DAC directly vs. Roon bridge enabling Roon input to NDS via Ethernet streaming? There was some discussion about this (SPDIF digital input vs Ethernet input) on the previous Naim forum, rather than this newer one, which suggested the streaming section of the NDS might be a bit of a weak point and better results can be obtained by bypassing it using an external streamer into one of the digital inputs.
I’m curious as I have a bit of a road-map plan to pick up a pre-loved NDS so I can do some comparisons with my nDAC, both devices fed from the USBridge+Digione Signature I’m currently using as a Roon end-point, I.e. with NDS used purely as a DAC. I’ll probably wait until I’ve 555’ed the nDAC, so as to allow the NDS full advantage of the twin burndy connections.