I asked Witch Hat this question when I was looking for jumper leads and their advice was to use the same cable as the speaker leads to retain the sound signature of the cables.
2 Likes
…I feel a need to say this again…
The manufacturer would (I think!) have designed and tested the XO parameters using the internal wiring supplied with the speakers. This internal wiring does contribute to these parameters.
1 Like
Yes and no, in that order!
The jumpers that seem to come with B&W’s top end speakers have invariably failed to impress me. I’ve always been so keen to replace them with something ‘proper’ I’ve never really stopped to see how much the sound improves. I’ve never noticed it sound worse, though.
Mark
1 Like
Interesting. My dealer said the top B&W, 800 series jumpers are actually good. It’s the 700 (which I have) and below that leave wanting.
He thinks for the price of the 700 series they should come with better ones than they do.
I have had Nordost Valhalla 2 jumpers on all three pairs of my Proacs, now at K6 Signatures. Pre Super Lumina. I started with the lower level Nordost early on, moved into Valhalla 2 level and never felt the need to upgrade. I might try Super Lumina jumpers sometime, but the Valhalla 2’s are plenty good. And, for somebody who loves the controlled and luminous treble, they really shine with the Proac ribbon tweeters. It has been the best of both worlds.
Mine were set up diagonally on the D40R and straight up and down on both K models.
Heresy I know, but in a constructive way.
1 Like
Has anyone here tried diagonal on Titan 808’s? …or in fact any of the Titan range? The 808 is quite a gap between the 2 boxes and would require speaker cable that can be split.
Exactly the reason why It cannot be done using Super Lumina as your main cable run.
1 Like
They have improved, certainly. I know judgement on appearance alone is questionable, but the jumpers that came with my (early-2000s) Nautilus SCMs looked like they’d been made by the tea boy on a £10 budget. The ones that came with my 2015 804D2s did at least have plugs on both ends (!) but look like they’ve been made by the admin assistant on a budget of £40. Progress, of a sort, I suppose.
However, if I’d bought a brand new pair of £6k speakers, I’d want the jumpers (which came in their own little presentation box) to look like a bit more effort had gone into them.
Out of interest, can any 800 series D3 or D4 owners post pictures of the jumpers that came with their speakers?
Mark
I included my 805 D3 jumpers with my ProAcs when I sold them. I never used them, having Vertere at the time. They were red and black IIRC, like these (photo from the web):
2 Likes
And no doubt they are what the manufacturer used when testing their speakers, which I expect is what all speaker manufacturers do.
I expect the manufacturers think they do their products justice, it would be madness if they didn’t for an trivial sum
1 Like
This is what Proac confirmed to me re Tablette 10 Signature.
G
1 Like
I also went back to the supplied links on my Response D2 after trying A5 and TQ jumpers - forsaking brightly lit midrange for an easier listen.
2 Likes
Hi CrazyRiver
Understand your view on jumpers.
Do you still configure positive speaker cable to HF and negative to LF terminals on speakers?
Just interested being another ProAc owner.
Thanks and HAGD.
Edit: I’ve updated to avoid confusion.
1 Like
Diagonal wiring is better the other way round.
Lots of discussion about this further back in the thread.
Hope It Helps and costs nothing to try. 
Positive to HF and Negative to LF
3 Likes
Quite, that’s what I meant but managed to reverse it. My brain is enjoying some downtime over bank holiday obvs.
Thanks again for original post it does work for me.
1 Like
I’ve never had brain fog. 
1 Like
Just to echo Mr Skeptikal’s advice - yes, that worked for me. Cheers.
2 Likes
Interesting. I just may try the supplied links tonight just as an experiment.
1 Like
Using both Superlumina cable and jumpers, and borrowing @Mike-B’s diagram, my speakers have traditionally been connected as shown by example #2, but the last time this topic came up, I moved things to example #4.
Following the advice this time round, a couple of days ago I switched to #3.
Hmm … … … Do things sound slightly smoother, maybe to the point of blandness?
The Naim “edge” seems to have disappeared.
Usual rules apply, i.e. give it another couple of days to get used to the sound, and then put things back as they were.
Or am I just kidding myself, and it’s all complete bollox! 
3 Likes