That makes sense, thank you.
Sorry Matthias - it’s “ON” for me ![]()
That makes sense, thank you.
Sorry Matthias - it’s “ON” for me ![]()
For 2nd gen Naim streamers, it’s been confirmed normalization is not applied even if turn on in Spotify app. It seems if use the Connect feature none of those other setting make any difference to sound quality other than choosing lossless. Naim receives the raw file direct to their streamer, not from the phone.
Someone posted somewhere the most of the rollout for the first 50 countries will be done by end of September. I’m in the U.S. and haven’t received mine yet but still have Qobuz in the meantime.
I think all those setting to turn off only make a difference if using your phone directly as a source of if other streamers claim to apply any of those.
Yes, in a Lejonklou environment the phone is the direct source for their streamer, so the right Spotify settings make sense. In a Naim environment via Spotify Connect the phone works as RC, so the Spotify settings of the Naim target device are relevant.
AirPlay and 256 kbps AAC?
What do you mean?
Airplay is not limited to 256k, that was an issue with Apple Muisc and how that implemented Airplay. I heard Qobuz and Amazon was at least lossless with Airplay. But heard Tidal over Airplay also has 256k aac issue. So not sure with Spotify since people didn’t really test it before since it was lossy. Obviously if Spotify Connect is available, chose that and never Airplay.
How to connect Spotify with Källa if not supporting Connect?
iPhone or iPad sends 16/44.1 via Airplay (soundoptimised by Lejonklou) to Källa.
The output (16/44.1) is the same with lossy Spotify and Lossless.
Update with wife and kids to bed.
Listening to my set up over speakers now. Spotify and Qobuz over connect. ND5 XS 2, Nait 1 and Spendor Classic 4/5.
Still a close call but listening very carefully I come again to the conclusion that Qobuz has more body, it just sounds as if there still is somewhat of a blanket over the music with Spotify. I am still of the opinion that it may be a matter of taste in the end, but I like the Qobuz sound more in my set up.
But… What strikes me especially by listening over my speakers is the difference when listening with Audirvāna - Qobuz combo… I really am deeply impressed on how Audirvāna brings my set up so much more alive… It is much more engaging, I feel my brain and body react to that sound, feel the urge to hear more and dive into the music.
So for me there’s absolutely no question at this point. As long as Spotify isn’t integrated in Audirvāna I won’t switch to Spotify for sure. I would give up so much fun…
So kalla sounds better with apple music?
Fredrik Lejonklou prefers Spotify, but couldn’t try Lossless so far.
Thanks @matthias, but I am not clear about your comment: How can you send Spotify Connect streaming via Airplay?
Källa doesn’t work with Spotify Connect. You send the music of your Spotify app on your iPhone via Airplay to Källa.
Got it, so basically you select Kalla as an airplay speaker from the Spotify app.
So makes sense if using Airplay then all the phone setting are applied. But as long as it’s using the old Airplay 1 protocol, you get 16/44. Not sure if it can do the 24 bit or not. Apple Music over AirPlay is 256 aac because it’s using Airplay 2 which can do multi room but not at lossless quality. Most people who use Apple Music don’t even realize not getting hires, les alone lossless via Airplay.
would that depend upon the destination device? As the owner of the linn klimax dsm/3, i know it can support 44.1/16 via apple music airplay 2.
So most modern streamer have Airplay 2 but with that they can stream as either airplay 2 or airplay 1 protocol. When they showed backend data for the apps that streamed lossless to the streamers it was in airplay 1 protocol. For Apple Music and Tidal it was airplay 2 and in 256k aac. So it was how the app on the phone itself was setup. Now if happened to own very old streamer with only Airplay 1, then I think possible even Apple Music might be forced to transmit in lossless
I don’t agree with your technical comment, linn clearly states that they only support airplay 2, and it shows 44.1/16 while streaming apple music in lossless mode.
I don’t have it either (also in Sweden)…
I’m basing my comments off what Naim staff showed at the time when people were questioning whether Apple Music was lossless over Airplay. Then people on other streamers confirmed the same thing. The Airplay 2 vs 1 protocol is really only backend stuff is all. I guess the question is, can that app do multi-room and still provide a lossless connection? And the main question here is can Spotify provide lossless over Airplay and seems answer is yes.