Spotify lossless is finally happening in October

I can understand the choice. Something most of us have to deal with.

Other members of the family here use Youtube Music on a YT family account. Kids are literally addicted to YT so I’m not going to argue about it.
I am sticking with Qobuz- Audirvāna, I am not prepared to sacrifice on SQ and that means paying for two streaming services and for Audirvāna is the cost I have to pay. Some of the TV streaming services have been sacrificed for that.

So this is where I’ll be testing but I honestly don’t think with lossless now added there will be a hit to sound quality. Think hires is more marketing than anything and the CD quality is all you need. And if Spotify is actually getting the same hires master and downsampling to 24/44, it should sound the same. I kept two accounts because lossy wasn’t something I could live with and I could have the difference on my headphone setup. If I do find Spotify to still be lacking I can always go back to Qobuz.

But it’s more than just paying for extra account. I’m lucky that my kid likes most of the same music so this is a way to bond with each other. Normally I’d go into Spotify logged into his account on my phone and then have to share link thru messages. No I have my own account and direct message within app, look at his public shared playlist, setup a family account to also get my wife involved. So this is something I’m looking forward to doing. I just feels like the extra wait for lossless is taking forever even though been waiting since 2021.

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As of this evening Spotify Lossless became available for me. First impression is that they have done a very proper job. Credit where credit is due, it surpassed my expectations on the first round of listening.
In comparison with Audirvāna - Qobuz there is a slightly less developed soundstage. On certain tracks (Desire, Yello remastered 2005 for example) I get the feeling that the Spotify version is still more or less compressed. The dynamics are poorer on these tracks in my set up.
Will do some further listening upcoming days but the step that Spotify made here in SQ is really significant, that’s pretty obvious to me.

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It arrived for me last night. It is the first time that I find Spotify listenable on the main Hifi. Spotify was usually fine on mid-fi setups but this is a game changer.

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When you say it arrived last night, how did you find out? Were you sent an Email letting you know it is available?

You can see it under ‘settings’ I can recall seeing a pop-up as well.

I just checked under settings and I saw it. It wasn’t there before.

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Does it actually say “lossless” in settings? My maximum setting says “very high”

Arrived for me (UK user) best part of a week ago, I had a pop-up on the screen notifying me when l opened the app.

According to what I’ve seen online, you should have an extra option of ‘Lossless’ below ‘Very high’.

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Ok. Still don’t have it then.

Thanks for posting :smiley:
I am sure you have optimised the Spotify settings for best performance :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I don’t see very high, I see extreme

Are you looking at Spotify App/Media Quality settings? On the actual device will probably be different.

The only place to see Spotify setup is in the iphone Focal & Naim app that I use to control the ND5XS2. Media quality is greyed out in the Spotify app

I think you’ll see ’Lossless’ in the Spotify app when it’s available. It’s greyed out because the selected device uses Connect.

Extreme in the Naim app gives you the highest of the three Spotify options which is 320bps. I would expect there to be another option in the Naim app when it’s available for a compatible device which gives lossless.

No, Naim confirmed their Extreme setting will passthru the highest setting available on your account. No update needed on Naim’s. So if you now have lossless, Spotify will play at that level with no normalization add. Just the raw lossless file. If Spotify ends up rolling out a hires two at some point, Naim can already handle that as well with no further updates.

Ah apologies, I think I remember Steve’s post stating that. Does it display lossless when streaming like the Spotify app?

Sadly I’m still waiting for my Spotify account to update, so I don’t have an answer. But it has been confirmed that what you see in the Spotify app is what you get. So 24/44 or 16/44 will be played back. Going to guess Naim’s display won’t confirm it.

This was the first listen out of the box. I will see if the settings can even get me further.

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