Supernait2 - NDX2 upgrades

Is it wrong to say, a SN3? :slight_smile:
Otherwise, I entirely agree with HH.

@Woodyneath welcome to the forum

on SN2 I would look at HCDR, as for NDX2 - either powerline (or I would very strongly recomend Titan Eleckra cable as source cable) or XPSDR but you are looking a more black boxes but also @anon4489532 mentions good equipment stand it is to be underestimated

most of all enjoy the journey

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It was actually the SN3 that got me thinking of upgrading, but the trade in value of the SN2 is rather low and I dont need the phono stage. But am definitely interested in the SN3.
Too much choice…

I’d start with a dedicated power circuit. It’s boring, but essential.
Second - sort out the networking - this led to the biggest improvements for me / more than any box upgrade.
I’ve gone to Unifi Ubiquiti DreamMachine as router into a Unifi switch outputting POE power into a Unifi switch that is powered by the former - and uniticore and streamer are plugged into it…

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@MMky
Great advice. I totally forgot about the mundane things like a dedicated power circuit and sorting out your network (If you stream content).

(DR) In my experience…and switch NDX2 never to go into ‘standby’.

G

Woodyneath, welcome to the forum!

My current profile is: NAS > XPS DR > NDX 2 > SuperNait 2 > NAC A5 > NAIM Ovator S-400 With the XPS DR, NDX 2 & SN 2 on the Quadraspire Q4EVO Bamboo 4 Shelf Rack.

There is also a wonderful discussion for members who have the SuperNait and NDX steamer in the NDX & SUPERNAIT thread. A lot of discussion regarding the HiCap, XPS DR, Cables, Racks, Interconnects, etc. A ton of great information along with some photos of members systems, so check it out.

The biggest lift for me was adding the XPS DR to the NDX 2. I also went from a pair of ProAc D2 speakers to my current Ovator S-400 speakers which was a nice uplift. I do love the ProAc line of speakers and your ProAC DB1must sound great in your system.

Go luck with your journey and have fun along the way…

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Definitely following my system and order for doing things.

Dedicated supply.
Fraim or decent rack.
HicapDR! Fantastic and much bigger uplift than the XPS DR.
HiLine or SL interconnect.
This all based on you happy with your speakers.

Welcome! A delightful system.

I’ve built my system around the SN2 and NDX2 and are delighted with it. I’d probably not worry about the SN3 and max out what you have.

Source first is a well tried and trusted approach here I think. Get the power and Ethernet connection basics well established. Dedicated mains may, or may not, be necessary, where are you and do you have mains pollution? Have a solid setup for the electronics.

Then going source first, I’d be recommending the XPS DR, which was transformational for me. Then upgrading the interconnect to the SN2, followed by the HiCaP (I did the opposite order), then speaker cables. I have Superlumina interconnects and speaker cables, quite expensive, but somewhat a “woah what happened there” sort of upgrade.

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I have a similar set up to yours and also found a greater lift from the XPS DR than the Hi Cap.

The HiCap is also much more affordable, so is certainly a great option to start with. I did both power supplies at the same time.

Couldn’t disagree more. I found (after trying on two occasions with two HCDRs) that the SN2 sounded better without.

The XPSDR on NDX2 however…

G

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Another vote for a good rack and a DR external power supply for the NDX2. I’ve heard it with and without power supplies and I find it greatly improved by an external PSU.

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That’s why everyone needs to listen for themselves, everyone has there own ears.

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Wow! Lots more options than I was expecting.

To be honest for me at this moment in time I think I will hold fire on any upgrades. I do really like what I’ve got and it is a considerable improvement on my previous Cyrus equipment. I just wish I’d bought Naim 8yrs ago when I got the Cyrus, but really wasn’t looking at that kind of budget then.

Thanks for all the advise and recommendations. Very much appreciated.

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In what way did the Hicap make your SN2 sound worse in your opinion?

Less ‘together’, less musically coherent somehow. Difficult to describe.

I really wanted to like it as an upgrade and, each time, left it in place for weeks…but removing it let the music flow better. To my mind.

G

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G, I don’t thing you are alone, others have said the same thing they prefer the bare SN2 w/o the HiCap, others have said they prefer the XS 2 over the SN2. Different folks, different set of ears and taste in the sound they prefer. Its all good!

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I removed my psu from SN2 and am happy.

Terrified of trying a 555ps with the NDX2 though as once I’ve heard it…

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