The death of streaming?

Until or unless tge bug reaches said niche(s)! That said, I guess that AI is predominently used in just the most popular genres

I know a musician Andy Sheppard, who has recently re-worked all of his own old music with the assistance of Ai but they are still very much his songs.
Much the same as Trevor Horn re-worked Frankie Goes To Hollywood songs using the technology of the day, to make them sound better.

I use Qobuz (new releases) and Spotify (playlists), but I do n’t think I have seen any AI generated music. Maybe I listen to different music that is of no interest to the people trying to get money from uploading AI junk. I also use internet radio stations to discover new music.

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I had thought there was something idiosyncratic to your setup up but no, Spotify shows the same for me

Mind you it sounds like an AI Killers or somesuch.

Qobuz has it but seems to be able to flag it as “other” so as to give some idea that it’s perhaps not even better than the real thing and the main discography is free of this sh1te.

.sjb

You are brave, searching for music that you know is polluted by AI. Before you know it, the streaming service algorithm decides that you like that stuff and starts feeding you more :slight_smile:

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Streaming won’t die as long as it’s giving you access to 99% of all music on Earth and beyond for $10 a month. Stop complaining.

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The problem e.g. for Trygve Seim AI tracks on Tidal is that if you choose “go to the artist” option on those the bio of the real Trygve Seim is displayed. Easy to spot though that the items are not part of the real artist’s catalog.

Where are you finding 99% of all music on Earth for $10 a month? I have looked at buzz Wing wanting to download albums and out of curiosity punched in a handful of albums I have, wondering if that sort of thing was on their site - and about half weren’t. (For clarity, they would have been British or possibly American published music from the latter part of the 20th century.)

Don’t be pedantic. You know what I mean.

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Ah but that other 1% is the cream of the crop, high fidelity, artistically uncompromised, heart achingly profound sweet soul music.

Human nature will want to search out this 1% of the pinnacle of civilisation’s music and desert the platforms that have the remainder of the commercial pap.

Mark my words!

.sjb

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I don’t have an updates feed, so streaming will be alive and kicking around here for some time to come.

Can l suggest disabling updates feed might solve your problem. :thinking:

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It’s always you one-percenters! :wink:

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The magic 1%!

Maybe only 1% of Naim owners are on this forum. And maybe only 1% of Hifi enthusiasts own Naim gear. And maybe only 1% of music listening population are Hifi enthusiasts


I am more critical, and faster to be so, than most but I haven’t noticed this on TIDAL. Could it be a setting?

Streaming is the future but it is its infancy still. It will continue to improve. I accept that there is something magical about vinyl and I enjoyed it with my LP12/42/110 which I sold along with all my LPs in 1985. I wouldn’t go back and now that my system has reached a point where the musical experience from streaming meets my needs I am happy with streaming.

You’ve only to look at Naim’s product line to see that they see the future in the same way.

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It seems that some of the reactions here are just ever so slightly missing the point. There are indeed many different ways in which one can get recommendations, I don’t think we disagree on that. But one of the (formerly) helpful means is on the way to becoming unusable. And no, is it not my Tidal settings that cause this, and no, looking at the artist’s profile does not help, as these tracks appear under the real artist, but are just by someone trying to piggyback on their good name. That others don’t see this is because, for now, they seem to be mostly targeting artists in a specific niche (Scandinavian jazz and associated performers, see below). Maybe whoever they are are just testing the waters, trying to keep under the radar, to learn how they can evade detection and make an easy profit. The core of the problem is, as e.g. @jan already mentioned, that it is very, very simple indeed to add stuff to the streaming platforms under other people’s good names.

Some examples:

  • the ‘artist’ called siri fatmawait targets Mathias Eick, Harmen Fraanje, Jacob Young and Ferenc SnĂ©tberger
  • the ‘artist’ called ZAENAL ABDULLAH targets Jacob Bro, Thomas Morgan and Palle Mikkelborg
  • the ‘artist’ called Luthfi targets Trygve Seim and Anders Jormin
  • the ‘artist’ called Ginto saputra targets Arild Andersen, Thomas Morgan, Mats Eilertsen, Björn Meyer and Markus Stockhausen
  • the ‘artist’ called JEFFRY FATUNLEBIT targets Mathias Eick, Gianluigi Trovesi and Yonathan Avishai
  • the ‘artist’ called NYAYU RAHMAYANI targets Louis Sclavis, Nelson Veras and StĂ©phane Kerecki
  • ec. etc. the list goes on and on
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I raised the issue of Andy Sheppard capitalisation with Tidal as I dislike it. Their response was that they take what the record label gives them, without alteration, so you may be right.

My Tidal home page today:

???

This is mine. Same as always:

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I think with many of these apps using “smart” search algorithm that it would be helpful to reset all input and history for a clean start. It seems like they get stuck sometimes.

Move to Spotify lossless is the answer.