The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

No regrets going 552/500 here. Just sold my 300DR and I’m sure the guy will love it :blush: You should evaluate upgrading in classic range too these days when prices on new is extremely high. You can reach a 500 amp for about the same money as the new 250. Something to evaluate. 500 is sick! :muscle:

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Not really, when I first set it up it sounded a little bright / less warm than 272/250/555, however, I then put the radio on for 24/7 for 5/6 days before going back to it. Since then I had one moment where an album sounded awful (complex arrangement) so I stopped listening and put the radio on again for a few hours.

Now to my ears it sounds like a ‘Naim’, differences for me is the increase level of detail even at low volumes (for example I currently have it on 18 listening to a Wilco album and all of the subtle elements are present) and the ability to drive at low volumes also (my fave Miles Davis album Jack Johnson I would normally crank up the volume to get ‘the feeling’ but now no requirement to).

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I can’t really demo here, unfortunately and I have a few questions since I’m in the process of moving on from nac82/250dr. My questions are 1. Does the new gear have the drive of the old? Reason for asking is my recent experience with Goldnote P1000/PA1175 which has a wider and deeper soundstage and more detail but not the same drive. It’s got drive and momentum forward but is smoother so to speak. Does this difference resemble the differences between Naim of yesteryear and the new gear do you think? Or does the new Naim manage to combine the rawer drive and momentum of the old with smooth and detailed and deep and wide soundstage?

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And I totally forgot question 2 :slight_smile:

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You have a NDS and 555PS with the 82/250? I think I’d look at keeping the NDS/555 and upgrading in the black classic range, as there will be bargains with discontinued new stock, or used gear from folks upgrading. I doubt the 222 would hold up against a NDS/555, and going with the classic range you will get a lot better for the same cost?

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So thinking about the new classics I wonder if Naim have done something clever here, they’ve said they wanted to simplify the range and make things easier to understand… what if that applies to pricing too?

All three of the new boxes are £5.7k, maybe the NC 300 series will also be the same price per box, that could mean something like this:

Streamer £5.7k (NPX 300 optional upgrade)
Pre amp £5.7k + NPX 300 (required) = £11.4k
Power amp £5.7k + NPX 300 (required) = £11.4k
SuperNait 4 £5.7k

So a single pre amp replacing 282/252 and a successor for the 300DR, NDX2 and SN3, the prices above seem to line up when you take the cost of the classic series with their power supplies.

Some weekend musings :thinking:

Edit: added SuperNait 4 to the list

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Or power amps 2 x 250 in mono configuration = 2 x £5700 maybe….

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Ah, now that would be very interesting and a smart move on their part!
I wonder if a certain combination of button presses on the current NC 250 puts it into mono mode!

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“Without me going through 4k odd posts, has anyone on this thread had a chance to compare the new classic NPX300 PS to the classic 555PS ?”

I thought they both added a similar amount of uplift, just give different sound signatures.

NAIT 200 and NAIT 300 surely? :grinning:

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One would think so Mr.M

With the NAIT 300 powering out 100w just like the new classic 250 :+1:

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I very much doubt there will be a Power Amp that can use the NPX300. Totally different power requirements.

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That would be a nice nod back to the old days :slightly_smiling_face:

Ah, thanks James, didn’t realise that. So I guess a power supply for a power amp would be more costly than the NPX 300?

Just change to Poweramp Inc. PS £11.4K, that fits your theory.

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True :grinning:

i recon a 200 series streamer would be optional psu, 300 streamer youd need it.

all very exciting

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Is it really true Slamdam?:thinking: That you can buy a used 500DR for about the same price as a new 250? Not at a dealer in Sweden in any case.

Non DR :+1: Don’t let lack of DR filter the 500-series away for you. They sound glorious.

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Okay! Then I’m with you :+1: