The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

maybe, although current uk list price for each 500 series is the same: nd555+psu=nac552+psu=nap500+psu

With the possible exception of the Statement? IIRC, part of the brief for the Statement was to see what could be achieved when all cost constraints are removed.

Even with a “cost no object” amplifier like the Statement you need to have some idea at the start of where you’ll be cost-wise at the end of the project, just to decide on whether it’s viable or not.

It hasn’t always gone to plan for Naim. The SL2s were an example of a project where the initial target price point was missed - by a long way - because the engineering demands and costs for certain components were way beyond what was reckoned at the start. So when the SL2 was launched it was a much more expensive speaker than the one it replaced (the SBL).

I’ll bet (although I have NOT compared) that the NC250 isn’t better than the 300DR. At this level, components are usually just different in presentation, rather than better or worse. I suspect some will love the new and others prefer the old…

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I just hit the 3 month mark on my 250.3 and it’s still getting better. The sound stage has now opened up even further with even more depth, height and space all around the speakers. Still no Cables from Naim yet so I am using the super cheap Designacables.

I am sure your NSC will continue to keep getting better as well.

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Does anybody have a thougt about what is the best way to keep the display alive for as long as possible on my nsc 222? Just a maintenance question. Turning off during play? Or allways on?

With the old green OLED screens I would habitually set the displays to only come on when making any control change or action, otherwise off. I have never had an instance on any of my kit where the OLED has faded or given issues, and it may well be down to this.

I recall being told that the newer colour screens have a much longer life before possible failure, although I would still be tempted to defeat the screen as I prefer it that way. I’m sure @110dB will have considered screen life when designing the NSC222, so perhaps better that he respond here.

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Yes, the colour display on NSC 222 is a different technology to the early green text OLED displays found on Uniti and 272. (OLED = organic light emitting diode)

The 222 display uses a 5.5 inch LCD screen that has a very long life unless physically damaged; we have all seen a dropped phone. LCD or liquid crystal displays (tech going back to the mid 1970s in watches and calculators) use very little power and not emissive by themselves and so they last.

However colour LCD displays required a backlight, these are white LEDs (light emitting diode). LED is very mature tech (1960s). Typically 10,000 to 50,000 hours and longer with half-life modelling - i.e. as they fade, progressively increase power and the result they have a constant output over their life.

Turning off the display is good to help free ones mind when listening and some may notice a small SQ improvement (all on separate PSUs and low power). To turn off the display when playing, go to the app, setting cog, ‘other settings’, ‘display’, then tick ‘turn off during playback’.

…I keep my display on all the time (NSC 222 and an early Atom prototype)

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Remains so four months in :+1:

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@110dB Are the display same on NDX2, they are little smaller than NSC 222, 5 inches I believe.

Had a new experience today. I went to put the 222/250/300 into standby mode, from the app. Unit’s went into standby, then heard relay latching, unit’s power button fully illuminating and unit’s trying to power up. Unit’s would the go back into standby and then repeat symptoms. I have powered down the whole system and removed mains plug. Hopefully, this is just a software glitch. :crossed_fingers:
Will update.

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@NoNaim It should be a software glitch as I have experienced the same behavior from time to time. I have already informed Naim support, but it’s very difficult to reproduce, so we still don’t have a solution yet. Please contact Naim Support so that they can investigate further. In the meantime, I’m leaving everything on. @110dB is already aware of my case.

If you want, we can share information about the system configuration, it could be useful to find commonalities and try to reproduce and identify the causes of the problem: you can send me an email adding “andrea” to the domain you see in my profile.

I have had similar experiences with my Nova when it was on wifi (an issue I think caused by it being undecided whether to connect to 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz). I realise that you will probably be on ethernet but I thought I would throw it out there as the symptoms sound identical.

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Well, all is well again this morning, after leaving fully powered down for the night. Having worked in electronics/software all my working life, I know how difficult these problems can be difficult to nail down. Especially more so, when intermittent. I do not know, if on Naim equipment the logs are wiped with cold reboot. If not, and @110dB or someone from Naim wants to contact, then I will be glad to assist. :blush:

Yes, same LCD with LED backlight technology on the colour screen streamers (NDX2 and ND 555)

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Hello @PeterJersey and welcome to the madness :smile:

Something not right here. Naim integrates wonderfully with Roon Core - they’re fully ‘Roon Ready’ and have been for quite some time now. What Roon server are you using?

Am considering changing my Linn Klimax DSM3 and Klimax Twin for the NSC222, NPX300 and NAP 250 and wonder if this is the right thing to do.

Overall I am happy with my system but feel am slightly missing mid bass.

I would welcome any advice.

What loudspeakers do you have? A slight lack of midbass would point me first in direction of speaker room integration and not a full replacement of the hifi rig.

Sometimes people want a change and that’s just fine though.

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Spendor D7.2

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I am not at all familiar with the sound of the Linn kit, but those Spendors really do not lack mid range bass. I also have found Spendor to work well with Naim. I think you really deserve to listen what this new range can do with those D7.2’s.

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