The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

I would hope not. Usually there are clauses where things are subject to change

I was just thinking along the lines of a software approach with configuration control and possibly hardware where serial number ranges of a certain component are versioned and correspond to a certain release of the product.

Is this also carried out by distributors where equipment is not sent back to the UK?

I think it would be interesting to know in general what all the incremental changes are for a product

looking at your profile and assuming like me digital is not going to be your main source - LP12 ?

the question of how good is the NSC222 vs the other classic pre AMP when LP12 is used as source is a question and demo I will be asking @Cymbiosis when PS has caught his breath

I really like the new 200 Classic but itā€™s going to need to be something else IMO to get me to change from my 252/300DR so until thenā€¦

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Yes, AFAIK itā€™s part of the official service routine.

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I imagine that the whole story should not be in the news of the world, but would expect to have an idea of what is required to bring things up to the latest spec and if this is indeed possible.

The reason for asking is simple. When I sent my 252 in for service, I think there was practically nothing done apart from resetting pots and frequency response tests/checks. However reading on here I have the impression that things are done usually when servicing the pre-amps

I agree, my main source is my LP12 and my NDX2 / XPS is my secondary source and I am really happy with both. One thing that is of no intrest to me is an intergrated streamer / preamp. I am also very happy with my current amplification but know there is better and like many of us enjoy the pleasure of upgrading and discovering new detail from my favorite recordings. If upgrading to a second hand 252 / 300DR is my only pratical option this is one I am happy to live with and my wife will certainly enjoy the end of my ongoing HiFi purchases. The frustration at this point in my journey is suddenly not having visability of my options moving forward. My other hobby is photography. When manufacturers in this sector suddenly bring out a new range and cull the old they often give us a future road map so at least we can make an informed decision.

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Well we know that there are more releases planned for the future and i agree, it would have settled a lot of nerves if there was an indication of what was coming. (so that people could make a decision on waiting or moving on)
Iā€™m the opposite to you, in that a streamer/pre is of interest but the item that i really want is a pre with balanced in/outs.

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I understand your frustration and whilst all Naim retailers are now running in the new gear, some retailers, and there are a few in the UK have taken a longer view because we could see some issues of availability/roadmap for owners and have built up stocks of the existing range! You will always get some retailers selling off everything ex demo as soon as they can, thatā€™s up to them, but some of us intend to ensure some level of availability/continuity of the original range for some time yet! :slight_smile: KR Peter

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same hear change my D750 for one of the new Z range - itā€™s only money !!!

Yes, will doā€‹:grinning:!, letā€™s hope they will appear soon (as second hand units ) with reasonable prices :sweat_smile:

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Errrā€¦ what about SL speaker cable?

KR, J

It is, but with most SME (thatā€™s small to medium sized enterprises ) and indeed most major companies offering Defined Contribution Pension schemes , there isnā€™t quite the loyalty to a company there once was .

Seems several people on Naim Facebook page have ordered on the spot!

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And and a whole load of components replaced all done by hand.

I donā€™t follow you? Maybe you know something I donā€™t. I am just repeating what I saw on the job sheet when it came back. The period between purchase and service was 17 years

During a service there are multiple tantalum and electrolytic capacitors replaced plus some other parts I canā€™t remember (opto coupler??).

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Something to consider, for those looking goggle eyed, with envy, at the New Classic rangeā€¦ :astonished:

Your existing Naim gear didnā€™t suddenly become cr%p, overnightā€¦ :thinking:

Upgraditis

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Hi Dr_J,

Excuse my ambiguous posts. The long dev time of ā€˜trying many km of cableā€™ was for developing the SL cables.

It is not one single aspect of a speaker cable design that makes them sound good. Mechanical stability is one thing. Royā€™s goal was to make an excellent sounding flexible cable. He overcome these issues in different ways. Iā€™m not going to give away his secret sauce on a forum. I hope you understand.

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No green eyes here, only green logos

:green_circle: :laughing:

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Sounds like a wise decision otherwise you will have to shoot us allšŸ¤£

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You are apparently unaware of the Salisbury Horrible Switch (SHS). Your Naim kit actually does sound like crap, literally overnight, when they advance it to the range just superseded. :stuck_out_tongue:

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