The Naim New Classic Range - Part 2

I figured Naim would have finally moved on from the Promisic capacitors in the preamps after all these years. I’m surprised.

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Bloody stunning. Bravo Naim!

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Where are these new components made and assembled, does anyone know?

With a current $ to £ exchange rate of 1.25 and allowing for typical US sales tax of say 5%, Naim has priced the new 300 series quite competitively I would say.

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belguim, netherlands and luxemburg distribution talks about october 2023 as availability

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The NAC 332 is interesting as well. Could maybe lose 4 boxes and replace it by one. 252, Supercap, headline2, Hicap2 and keep the XPS2 initially for that. Will be interesting to see what people say about it in comparison with the 252

Same cables that connect to the NC250.

One pair of 4pin DIN to Balanced XLR

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My guess is because the right half of the 333 is identical to the 222. They removed the left half of the 222 and added the analogue out. That’s probably also the reason it’s using the same 1791 DAC chip as the 222 instead of the 1792 that is in the NDX2.

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congrats to the whole team delivering this second superb new line. Fear for exorbitant prices amazingly countered.

Prices went down already? Weren’t higher prices quoted just a few hours ago?

I’m disappointed. I was hoping the new NAC would be priced higher to hinder my curiosity.

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First time I’ve posted the Recommended Retail prices on here. This info comes from Naim this morning. I can’t vouch for any pricing quoted by others.

The Nds , even if it was the top Naim streamer till 2018, was not a 500 series one. The why I wrote it was a 300 series….but Richard said it wasn’t really.
The Ndx2 is still under the Nds for local streaming. But the new 333 should be logically above the Ndx2.
As @110dB pointed:
“ There’s 3x streaming/digital/DSP/DAC PCBs stacked up on top of each other in the 333.

Anyway, the logical upgrade for me should be Nd555. But we never know. In recent threads someone wrote that the new 222 is at 252 level and new 250 near 500 dr level. :rofl:

There are only 2 on top of each other in the NDX”

So the question if now the 333 is better or not, for LOCAL streaming, vs the Nds, raised in my head. The 333 is new, but doesn’t have suspended subchassis.

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I am not seeing anything in the design of the 333 to make me think it will be better than the NDX2 to be honest. It feels more of a parallel line to match the new boxes. As far as I know the NDX2 is continuing as well.

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Glad to see the continued simplification of the line and improved SQ versus box count. And the US prices don’t seem too bad, well done, Naim. Looking forward to the listener impressions.

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The yellow 47uF caps do sound good. They have a large physical volume for the ‘CV’ (capacitance x voltage).

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The 333 costs near 2k more. It would be weird for Naim to launch a new streamer, 5 years later, more expensive, but not better vs the Ndx2.
But I don’t know of course, just my feelings.

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I think someone perhaps assumed the monoblocs were £12,000 each, but @Richard.Dane has confirmed it’s for a pair. So… £28k for a 4-box set up, not £40k. All looks good to me…

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Wow - Congratulations naim!
Looks very good and the 350 Mono Blocks are very promising.
“PSU inside” is a bit unusual for naim, but if it works it will be perfect and less fraim consuming :slight_smile:
Reading this for the first time, I was a bit afraid… because I bought an ND555 2 weeks ago.
But really doing not think that the new streamer will catch the “older” naim streamer for triple price.
If there is a new 500 series to come … WOW! Love the design by the way :slight_smile:

It’s always going to be “better” if you can comfortably afford it to invest in the latest products, that and actually having the time to use it assuming you aren’t working a 100hr week to pay for it all :joy:.
Certainly in my own experiences spending short amounts of time with 200 Series products I’d struggle to find anything not to like factoring for the criteria above (time/funds), of which I lack both so have to be thankful to just be able to talk about it all here and occasionally hear it in person.
What is reassuring in the long term is the simpler upgrade path and more sensible range architecture, like a NAC that can power itself for one, it’ll certainly make the trade up steps more palatable for many in the coming years.
My intention is to sit it out and wait for the dealer ex demo stock to start surfacing a year after initial release and leverage the residual value on bits I can enjoy in the meantime.

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