The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

Apparently even the 250dr no longer has such requirements if I read correctly.

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So will the 300 series be all separates - DAC/streamer, all-analog preamp, power amplifier? Perhaps the 300 series power amplifier will be a monoblock or will have an external power supply.

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That is not what I understand, but am happy to see something that corrects me. I have a 300DR but my cables are 10m.

Frankly, I’m surprised that Naim and Focal haven’t collaborated on a streaming active loudspeaker to compete with KEF’s LS50W.

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@JosquinDesPrez see above.

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Well, then it is at odds with this, which apparently needs revision. @Richard.Dane ???

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which is the single choice? as I am in the same boat with current sn3/NDX2 and was all intent on adding an XPS DR - but am not clear now that this is the way forward

Im not as well versed as many on this forum on the ins and outs of various components - but this has been a fascinating thread to read and try to make full sense of in my mind

It might depend on where you want to end up. If it’s the SN3/NDX2/XPR, then adding the later is a great idea, especially if you can get it at a clearance price. The NDX2 is very good and would see you through many upgrades in the classic series if you were ever going separates.

I don’t see the 222 being better than the NDX2 as a streaming source. It will be interesting to read people’s feedbacks after demos.

Off course, switching to the new classic range is going to be very expensive if the Australian prices are similar to NZ’s.

As you have the excellent NDX2, I think building from that base is a good option and look out for good used gear or clearance sales?

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thanks Mike
Yes prices here are $13500 each so a bit lofty
Endgame for me is to add a power supply to SN3/NDX2 - the sale prices here on the XPSDR lasted just a week or two and are now gone - which is surprising
After this I will only be looking for an Atom/Nova for the office - then im all done
Sounds like hunting down an XPSDR at a good price should be my priority - as current system sounds great to me

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Maybe they are ensuring that they are still doing what they do best. If the core business is not working properly then it’s game over. I guess one can’t do everything

They are still on sale with one dealer here. I’d just ask for their best cash price and see what happens?

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What is the reason behind the choice of balanced input? For sure it has more market appealing but naim defended for years the choice of unbalanced because of sound reasons. Is the new solution improving the sound quality?

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Good point!

I tried Amazon Music but gave up because there was no way to even download high resolution music. I couldn’t even get their support to understand my needs here.

I have Apple Music on my Tesla but they have only recently introduced this. I’m not sure if it is possible to set high resolution for that. Also, perhaps unsurprisingly, smart playlists don’t work.

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While the current amps can run on less as Steve has confirmed, I’m not sure Naim would recommend it. And certainly they sound best with more, as I know Jason and Mark would absolutely agree. It may well need revision with the latest amps though, so it’s something we will discuss when next together.

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How would you characterize versus the sn3 ndx2 combo?

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That’s a very interesting remark, can you please detail it a bit more, into more or less technical terms?

subject raised 650 posts above; Naim staff no doubt very buy and providing very useful here, so no doubt we will have an answer in due course

might we worth asking @Richard.Dane when he heard the prototypes last autumn, what were in use in the demo room at hq?

Abso-bloomin- lutely…!! The responses that Steve S - @110dB - has provided are extremely useful & insightful. I greatly look forward to more - now and (hopefully) in the near future… :slightly_smiling_face:

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I think we are fairly same to ‘guess’ that the NAP300 could be overhauled in a similar way to the 250. We just don’t know when… :thinking:

The speakers were Focal, but I can’t recall now exactly which - possibly the Scala Utopia Evo? A bit different to what I’m used to with SL2s at home…