I’ll give a little report when I get it
I was very close ordering them. Please give a hint how they are.
I hesitated as my tile floor is uneven ![]()
What is SO?
Linn room correction software
O = optimization I think
Only had them on for a few hours, need 8-10 hours to stabilise, then I can start testing them for real.
I have the spikes as I have a concrete floor under the carpet, but they can also have a felt pad instead of spikes for other types of floors, such as tiles I believe.
DG…
SO = space optimisation.
Roger
I found they made a lot bigger difference to SQ, than Gaia’s. Swings and roundabouts with Townsend seismic platforms. However, the knock out punch, is no oil rig platforms in the room.
After some reading on here & doing some searching, looks like a set of the Auva 70’s will be on order shortly for me to try. Also going to try a set of the 50’s on my TT, a couple sets of EQ’s on my source components (non Naim) & might as well throw in a Smoothlan for fun ![]()
They work very good on naim kit.
Is this when used with Fraim? I would have thought Naim components would work better on Fraim (what I’m using) vs isolation devices, as the pieces were designed specifically as a system.
I’m not entirely convinced Fraim will produce the best sound for Naim components compared to everything else. I wouldn’t be surprised if a full HRS rack bettered it. I know what a HRS isolation base did for my turntable and I am quite impressed. Now I’m thinking about getting a HRS rack for my phono stage and turntable, instead of using my Fraim for them.
Is this when used with Fraim?
No, I don’t use Fraim, but Naim kit being solid aluminum is the perfect path to drain vibrations into the AUVA EQs aluminum casing, similar materials transfer vibrations more eficiently.
I know some have experimented with isolation vs Fraim in the past & from what I recall, Fraim was better. I have some HRS products & am thinking of adding one of their bases for my TT as well, but isolating a TT & a Naim component are probably two different things. I believe the Naim boxes are designed to resonate with the Fraim, so putting them on isolation would likely change the sound. I guess if you prefer that change in sound is up to you.
As far as Fraim for other components, that I can see it not being optimal. I currently have my TT on Gaia footers & a Fraim lite shelf (thought not using glass under it would be better). I tried Orea isolators under my DAC (on a full Fraim level), thinking it should be better but I didn’t like the sound. I’m about to try Some Stack Audio Auva 50’s under the TT & probably combine that with a Delos platform or HRS base. Will also get their EQ isolators, so curious how they work under my DAC.
What is SO?
It’s Standard Optimisation.
This is from Linn;
Great sound shouldn’t cramp your style.
Every room has its own particular sound. When you’re investing in a world-class music system, why let your room have such a big say in what you hear? Remove the unwanted distorting effects of your listening environment and reveal the true sound of the music.
How it works
Space Optimisation uses sophisticated acoustic modelling to build up a complete picture of how your speakers, their placement, and the unique characteristics of your room interact to affect the sound you hear. It then precisely identifies frequencies that are artificially distorted by your environment, and reduces their energy, to reveal the music that would otherwise be hidden.
Whatever speakers you use, and however you’ve designed your room, you’ll hear a performance that’s optimised uniquely for you.
All Linn network music players have Space Optimisation built in, and it’s a free software upgrade to all existing owners too.
DG…
I have some HRS products & am thinking of adding one of their bases for my TT as well, but isolating a TT & a Naim component are probably two different things.
HRS don’t do isolation just for turntables. They have a lot of experience isolating components as well. My dealer has a customer that had Fraim and switched to HRS. My dealer said it was a big improvement. I wouldn’t be surprised. The HRS is considerably more expensive. Also, unlike Naim, isolation is all HRS does. Yes, I get that Naim tuned Fraim for their components, but that doesn’t guarantee it can’t be bettered, for a price.
I’m aware what HRS does/wasn’t implying they’re only for TT’s. My point was just that what HRS is trying to achieve & what Naim did with the Fraim are two different things.
When a Naim box is on the Fraim, if you clap it rings. Something you wouldn’t normally think is a good idea but this must have some impact on sound, that they wanted. When you isolate the Naim boxes you may loose some of the “Naim” sound but on the other hand, could gain in some other areas, it’s up to you to decide what’s better.
If it’s a non Naim component, Fraim probably isn’t what I’d automatically think sounds the best, I would typically think something with better isolation. That’s why I’m going to try some new footers under my non Naim components. Maybe I’ll try them under my Naim boxes as well to see if I prefer them with additional isolation.
When a Naim box is on the Fraim, if you clap it rings.
LOL…That is really completely meaningless to me. How or why is that even important? I don’t use my system to clap and listen to what happens. I use it to play music.
Am I suppose to clap when I play music. Does the ringing of the Fraim translate to singing along with the music, or what? ![]()
I’m sorry. That argument for Fraim seems really silly and irrelevant to playing a system to listen to music.
LOL…That is really completely meaningless to me. How or why is that even important? I don’t use my system to clap and listen to what happens. I use it to play music.
Am I suppose to clap when I play music. Does the ringing of the Fraim translate to singing along with the music, or what?
I’m sorry. That argument for Fraim seems really silly and irrelevant to playing a system to listen to music.
It was a simple observation, to demonstrate how their design principles are completely different, nothing more. The fact you’re making it into a big deal & something completely different from what I said, has me rather confused. I’m not sure if I’m not explaining myself properly (my posts tend to get long so I try to shorten/expect people can read between the lines, which doesn’t seem to be a problem for most) but your replies seem to always take what I said out of context.
I’m not sure if I’m not explaining myself properly
Your point is coming across quite clear, it just defies logic and science alike. Naim goes to great lengths to isolate components from vibrations, even internal boards are commonly decoupled from the chassis. Fraim is designed to isolate, not to vibrate, as you can see from the product description:
“With each level carefully isolated from the next using a cup-and-cone interface, and an additional double-layer base platform providing further isolation from resonance, you can be confident that your audio experience will be unparalleled. The toughened glass sub-shelf, resting on minimal-contact ball decouplers, offers even more isolation.”