Cableoholic,..Or,.What's Going On..?

Regardless of brand etc. I always thought it wasn’t Ideal for a cable to be evaluated within the sort of situation your describing. A couple of hours here, a couple of hours there.
You really need to spend a couple of weeks here, and a couple of weeks there. :heart_eyes_cat:

i finally got your special humor Tobyjug. Hopefully, because my head was going to explode

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:Yes.
Although the opposite - I have read - of what happens to the middle appendages.

So I’m new here, but I’m guessing most of you folks are in Europe? I’m in the US and it’s funny how different the pricing and brands are. I have two 20 amp dedicated mains lines in my living room. Thats a 20 amp circuit breaker, 10ga , to Oyaide R1 outlets. Huge improvement by having dedicated lines. Do you guys do that?

Rick - Yes, many of us in the UK who post on the Forum have dedicated wiring feeds/sockets - but such things have to be limited in their discussion on the Forum due to local (region/country) regulations/codes being different - obviously Naim as the Forum owner don’t want to ‘promote by association’ anything which might be untoward/>codes. Here’s a link to a recent thread, which may give you an insight. You may detect that regulations around electrical wiring and facility installation keep evolving and tightening in the UK.

Yes Rick, as HL says al lot of the UK forumites have done this.
However its not so much just a heavier wire from the circuit breaker box (we call that the ‘consumer unit’) but to install a new mini consumer unit that gets its feed from the incoming power main before it goes into the main house consumer unit.

For info: the US cable size 10AWG is the metric size 5.27mm/2 (millimeter squared)
The UK forumites seem to agree 10mm/2 (slightly smaller than 7AWG) is best, others use 6mm/2 (9AWG)

Hi Rick, the UK is different to most countries in that we generally use ring circuits to supply multiple sockets, rather than individual radials to each outlet. (These are only used for high power stuff like cookers and showers.) So here you might expect there to be a stronger argument in favour of a dedicated radial supply for the HiFi.

Thanks Mike for the Wire Gauge explanation.:grinning:

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No problems Rick.
Apart from the different wire measurement methods, Europe & most of the rest has 230 volts power, double your 120 volts. So although a specific size of cable will carry the same amps on both 120v & 230v, the watts (power) capacity is aprx double with 230v.
Whatever; apart from no domestic audio on the planet needing such cable sizes if electrical theory is applied, the one & only measurement is your satisfaction in the end result … enjoy

Thanks Mike. I’m now waiting for my SN2 to arrive.

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Powercables And Contact-Test

Five pairs of contacts.
•AcroLink
•Qyaide P/C 079
•Qyaide P/C 004
•Furutech FI-50
•Qyaide M1/F1

Now we shall test if there’s a difference in soundquality between different contacts.
•We know that it is,.but how big is the difference.
•And,.is it worth going from the cheapest to the most expensive contacts.?

We will use the five pairs of contacts,.as is enumerated above.
•AcroLink is the cheapest €120:-.
•Qyaide M1/F1 is the most expensive €790:-.

:small_blue_diamond:The powercable that we are going to use is Jorma Design Duality,.as you can see in the picture above.
An award-winning cable.
Jorma Design Duality as finished cable,.terminated with Qyaide-contacts costs outside Sweden’s borders €1333:-.

All five cables has a length of exactly 1,5m as recommended by Jorma Design.
The next recommended length is 2 meters.

We use a torque-wrench when terminating the cables,.which means that we get the same Nm-value in all contacts.
If you pull a cable too tightly into the connector,it will be worse soundquality.
Therefore,.a torque-wrench is used when mounting the cable,so that we obtain the recommended Nm-value.

The screen is also connected after the instructions from Jorma Design.

We also “burn-in” each cable 250 hours. Recommended from Jorma Design is 150 hours. But we give each cable 100 hours extra.

It will be interesting to hear,.how big the differences are between these five contacts.
And the idea for this test,.I got when I came to know my new Cableoholic-friend…That has given name to this thread

/Peder🙂


From the manufacturer below…

•There are no other products,.or mods on the market that solve the problem of airborne RFI collection - reproduction - amplification inside.

Here We Go Again,.Mr Cableoholic

:small_blue_diamond:This image and writing above,.I received just now on mail from my Cableoholic-friend.

It’s his new Interconnect-cables.
Why he needs new cables,.can we discuss another time :wink:,he has many.
I don’t know more than this,.but I think it’s time to visit him again.
I was there last week,.then there were some other new interesting things.

But then this is a Cableoholic-thread,.so we stick to it.

/Peder🙂

:small_blue_diamond:These RCA-cables that I wrote about in my post above are…
•TimePortal Signature,.and is two meters long.

It is their reference-cable.
TimePortal also says,.that this Interconnect-cable sounds best in a two-metre length.
It is completely new,.so it has not played many hours,but it already sounds incredibly good.
I heard it when I visited my Cableoholic-friend yesterday.

It’ll be interesting to hear it after 200-300 hours of burn-in.

/Peder🙂

This above mentioned burn-in, is this in regard to the whole sytem or just the canble in question? If its the cable, can any one explain why a cable need 200-300 hours burn in; what is it within the cable that needs this physical warm up?

i bought 2 days ago a powerblock and power cable. The 5 , 6. first hours it was sounding bright and acid. After the 10 hours, the acidity is gone. It’s called burn in.

Or mental adjustment. :wink:

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absolutely not . More your system is resolved however, more you can hear the burn in. Try by yourself, it’s the best.

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Absolutely nothing, in my view. (Unless it has just been cryogenically treated and the crystal structure is returning to normal.) and what as for physical warm-up, in an interconnect even if very thin gauge, the warm up due to current will be less than the variation in room temperature from day to day. I believe it is smply getting used to it, or ear response changing, or sound memory unreliability, etc.

we are a lot to disagree on that IB. It’s not my experience and i am sure it’s not a mental process.
The same phenomenon of run in for boxes, interconnects, ethernet cables, speakers…

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I’m not disputing you can hear something change; all I’m saying is that attributing everything to burn-in disregards how much we know, scientifically, about how we perceive sound and adapt to changes. If It is something you don’t suffer from, you may just not be human. :wink: