English Premier League Season 2023/24

Very good.

For the FOURTH time this season, Soucek saves our blushes with a last-gasp winning goal in Serbia this evening.

Despite the (thoroughly undeserved) win it was a dreadful performance by the Tartan Diego Simeone’s Massive Euro Cup Winning Cockney Bastards and I feel sorry for the poor sods who schlepped all the way out there to watch that farce.

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At least you are through Kev and @SiBrighton’s Super Seagulls that’s at least three forum members teams are 100% through and hopefully a fourth @AndyBlain’s Newcastle look likely to proceed.

Man Utd need a bit of a miracle against Bayern.

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Fingers crossed Bob, not easy, but we have a chance. And well done Brighton and West Ham. Two very differing managers; Moyes effective and old school; De Zerbi risky, innovative and exciting. Good luck as the journey goes on…

@Bobthebuilder @Andyblain cheers guys. Still haven’t managed an away game yet ! So getting through to the knockout rounds provides opportunity. Sounded like we rode our luck tonight. But a win is a win😀.

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Dates set for the Cheats case to be heard late Autumn next year and findings at the end of 24/25 season. Their rhetoric is that they have unequivocal evidence that are not guilty of all charges and are eager to prove their innocence but from a lay person totally not versed in the law I’d ask why did they employ delaying tactics through 2018-2021 through several appeal processes trying to get the case thrown out/ delayed?

This from the Guardian in July 2021.

Tue 20 Jul 2021 19.28 BST

"Manchester City have lost a ruling by the court of appeal, which confirms that the Premier League is continuing to investigate the champions for alleged breaches of financial fair play, with one of the judges stating part of the club’s argument was “entirely fanciful”.

City’s legal team did not want it reported that it was challenging the jurisdiction of Premier League arbitrators to investigate the case and that it was also fighting a request to disclose documents and information to the panel."

The three-judge court of appeal dismissed City’s argument. One of these, Sir Julian Flaux, the chancellor of the high court, said: “The suggestion that press interest and speculation might disrupt the investigation or the arbitration, where both are being conducted by experienced professionals, is entirely fanciful. Likewise the suggestion that press comment and speculation following publication might damage the club’s relations with commercial partners was unconvincing.

“As Lord Justice Males [one of the other two judges] said during the course of argument, any potential commercial partner with whom the club might enter a contract would be bound to conduct due diligence, which would reveal the existence of the investigation and the dispute.”

As the arbitration was public knowledge the club’s argument that it cannot have a fair hearing was also dismissed. “[This] would seem to be a non-lawyer’s interpretation of the allegation of apparent bias,” Sir Julian said.

City strongly deny any wrongdoing regarding financial fair play. The Premier League supported the club’s argument regarding confidentiality but with the caveat that the league in the future “should be free to rely on and disclose the Merits Judgment in other arbitration proceedings against other member clubs”.

However, the court ruled this was actually a counterproductive argument. “It is difficult to envisage a more eloquent demonstration as to why publication of the Merits Judgment is in the public interest,” Sir Julian said.

Lord Justice Males noted the time that had elapsed since the Premier League launched its investigation. “This is an investigation which commenced in December 2018. It is surprising, and a matter of legitimate public concern, that so little progress has been made after two and a half years – during which, it may be noted, the club has twice been crowned as Premier League champions,” he said.

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Most pertinent post of the day.

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Great article and only time will tell the real outcome.

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Flying start from the Young Gunners Wolves are very lucky to get in at half time just 2-0 down.

Another 3 points for The Arsenal still on top.

Desperately hanging on, at home, against Wolves…

And their fans expect to win the league (they deny it but they do).
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Wolves are an excellent team under O’Neill. No-one really cares about performance. The idea you can or will be scintillating every week is nonsense and ultimately no-one cares. Performances are memorable but don’t win titles. Points do. Some fans will come out of some games like this moaning with a severe case of the “what ifs”. The majority will go “well we found a way to win.”

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Last season the Arsenal hate campaign was quite loud and used to get to me a bit it’s now actually quite funny and much less loud a bit like an embarrassing fart .

One thing is for sure last season wasn’t just a flash in the pan.

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That’s because Arsenal are sh…!

Oh dear that’s funny and just to easy to retaliate!

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:slightly_smiling_face:

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Everton showed plenty of spirit at Forest this evening. Dominated the majority of the game. Carry on playing like that and they should survive their 10-point deduction.

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Big win for the Toffees against Forest lifting them off the bottom.

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Without the 10 points deduction we’d be sitting in 11th place now, which after the last few seasons I’d be quite happy with. I do still think we’ll stay up.

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As a Forest fan, I think Everton certainly deserve to.

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