That’s a good album, which obviously will sound better when played through a Nighthawk.
Problem is that the device connecting to it likely won’t have the same power. In theory more weaker APs are better than one powerful one. And to be clear, the former is not the same as a mesh.
For those interested, this is a nice article about WiFi and its issues:
I’ve removed the NEET-1008 after just over a month from between router and switch and returned to the Audioquest Diamond.
The NEET is just a little too much, a bit edgy/rough at times, the Diamond retains the impact and sense of being ‘live’ without the drawbacks.
I have had the same experience with the NEET-1008. I changed to Chord Signature with an EE1 plus in between my EE8 switch and streamer. Quite an expensive upgrade but the result is phenomenal!
Well regarding switches one of the most recommended ones is Tempus (see also Network Acoustics Tempus Switch - #56 by Seacat77 ) and if you don’t have an audio optimized switch in place I‘d recommend going with an Ethernet filter like ENO2 rather than just an Ethernet cable alone (even if it’s the high end segment).
@drago Give me your AI summery of how Shunyata Sigma performs please
I might..have..to….try…..it?
Try it…
. That’s my summary.
I will try a different AI engine
The german one is to lazy!
That’s what AI says (source is not from naim community- strange)
1. Tonal Balance: “Organic and Natural”
The most common feedback from Naim users is that the Sigma removes the “metallic” or “etched” quality often found in digital streaming.
• Weight & Body: It adds a sense of “meat on the bones” to instruments and vocals. Bass becomes more textured and tuneful rather than just being a “thump.”
• Midrange Focus: The Sigma has a slight emphasis on the upper-midrange, which aligns perfectly with Naim’s forward and engaging presentation. This makes vocals feel more emotional and “in the room.”
• Smooth Highs: It tames the “digital edge” without sacrificing detail. High-frequency transients (like symbols or violin bows) sound liquid and lifelike.
2. Soundstage and Imaging
While Naim systems aren’t always the most “holographic” (focusing more on drive and timing), the Sigma expands the spatial dimensions significantly.
• Blacker Backgrounds: Due to Shunyata’s CMode filters, the “hiss” or “grit” in the silence between notes is reduced. This makes instruments pop out of a darker, quieter background.
• Layering: You will likely notice better front-to-back depth. Instead of a flat wall of sound, the musicians occupy distinct pockets of space.
3. Impact on Naim’s PRaT
A common fear is that “filtering” cables might slow down a Naim system. However, users generally report the opposite:
• Timing: The reduction in phase noise actually improves the “timing” of the system. Transitions feel more precise and less “splashy.”
• Punch: The Sigma maintains the “Naim punch” but makes it feel more controlled and less fatiguing over long listening sessions.
You never feel you have too much bass and to little definition/speed? All components seem to be on the warm side in your system. PN, Shunyata, NDS etc
Or they are balancing up for DR technology.
I felt that when I brought sl speaker cable in. Pulled speakers a bit out and good. My room is very bass light and I sit in the middle.
As a long time Sigma user I’d say AI describes what I hear pretty well. I think it’s a perfect match for a good Naim system and possesses all the qualities of Super Lumina and then some! Some think that a £2k Ethernet cable is expensive, and it is but where else do you get the level of changes that it brings?
My only concern is that Drago and I have contributed a lot to this thread, so I’m probably just reading back what I’ve already said! ![]()
I may have posted earlier in the chain recommending Shunyata’s Alpha and Omega cables, one I use from NAS (Alpha) and one to NDS (Omega) - just a thought but the New Year may throw some ex-dem Omegas or Alphas onto the market which might be within budget?
Also watch out the soon to be released new generation of Network Acoustic Muon2 Ethernet cable ![]()
I have been contemplating about a Sigma/Omega since i have read so much positive about it in the Naim community. Before spending 2k on that, i gave something a try that is also often mentioned in the Naim forum; a Cisco Catalyst switch: i got hold of a used Cisco Catalyst 2690Cx switch for 100 Euro.
My switch setup is already quite good: Router→ Buffalo GS2016 + Roon-Server (both with dedicated powersupply) → 25 m Fibre optics → LHY AS8 Pro → Belden Ethernet cable → Bricasti streamer/Dac→ Nac 282
I wanted to see if the Cisco Catalyst connected to Router sounds better than the Buffalo GS2016; so tried replacing the Buffalo.
There was not much difference. May be a slight benefit for the Buffalo.
But then i tried something else: i connected the Catalyst to the Roon Server and then to the Buffalo GS2016 through fibreoptic. This can be seen in the foto below. Basically this means that I used fibreoptic to isolate the Buffalo from the Roon Server Computer.
This brought an amazing improvement in sound. You know, the type of improvment that leaves no doubt. Things got more depth, more smoothness, more body, much more detail.. I hear things now that i did not hear before. Really amazing. The cheapest and most amazing cost-benefit upgrade i have ever experienced.
I guess the benefit has to do with isolating the Buffalo from Roon Server computer noise. Maybe also the clocking in the Catalyst helps. But, I obviously have no idea what is going on.. I mean, there are now three switches involved ( actually 4 because LHY AS8 Pro has two internal switches) and system never sounded better.
All this makes me wonder whether cables and expensive filters such as the Muon offer a good cost-benefit ratio.
For me, Sigma/Omega off the table for now.
From another place on internet. I believe many wireworld cables are manufactured by..neotech.
The Sigma v1 Ethernet cable turned out to be a complete failure due to its aggressive filters. It significantly reduces high frequencies and cuts off depth and instrument resonance. Its only advantage is that it makes the sound more fluid and soft, but overall, I regret buying it. The Wireworld Platinum 8 Ethernet cable easily outperforms it, and the price difference between the cables is almost double. The Sigma-X, however, is an excellent Ethernet cable. Shunyata has completely reconfigured the filters. The sound is very clean and spacious, the black background is captivating, and the timbre and tonal balance are even. A very high-quality cable. Well worth the money.
Do you believe that… it’s nonsense imo… and makes me hesitatant trying sigma x. And omega - even more bad? When I compared I liked sigma more.
I believe that is what Lucifer claimed too. Strange that people hear so vastly different things.
Here in the naim forum many are very happy with shunyata ethernet cables. And yes - it’s smoother as diamond. But what it really can is instrument resonance. Try it and you will know.
Which led to the following response from another member of that site:
I have had the opposite impression. A few friends and I gathered at my place a few years ago to audition Ethernet cables. The Platinum 8 was included and all of us concluded that it boosted the high frequencies. Painfully so on some lesser recordings. The other cables included the Starlight 8, Shunyata Alpha and the SoTM dCBL-CAT7. The Platinum 8’s high frequencies were boosted compared to all the rest. Initially after swapping to it, it gave the impression it was revealing more but that quickly gave way to ‘ouch’.
