What Norwich had to cope with for 15 minutes in the 2nd half was pretty much what we have to cope with regularly & Man City almost every week, 11 men behind the ball. It’s really difficult to break down and inevitably leads to break away goal opportunities. You seemed to lack a player/players who could unpick the lock and eventually we regained the ascendency I thought. Your biggest threat was corners, something of a weakness for us. We’re not a big side and can be bullied. Those are the games we’ve lost.
Because we only scored 1 it was a tense evening and the result was always in doubt. Wagner has you set up well but needs something else - either a flair player or two or a less risk averse approach? Tbf to him, we’re at our best in a toe to toe game. He would know that.
2 points off a play off place and your season is over? I find that very hard to contemplate as an approach to any football season. A season is only over when stuff is mathematically impossible. The unlikely stuff or the stuff we decline to contemplate has happened in every single football season since I have been alive.
Thought the deal was that mention of Norwich finances was over? The reality is there are 3 clubs above you with greater debts. Your issues have long been about poor managerial appointments.
Real Madrid have returned to the top for the first time since 2017/18 with reported record revenue of €831m, an increase of €118m over the previous year. The club’s growth is largely attributable to strong retail performance and higher stadium attendance.
We fail against the top clubs too often.
Southampton, Leicester and Leeds dominated us at our own ground.
We are simply not good enough to be promoted as we are worse than we were three years ago and we know how that ended.
When mentioning the need for a rebuild you cannot avoid taking into account the debt level.
We are where Ipswich were three years ago unfortunately and I think, as hard as it is to admit as a Norwich supporter, we need to take a leaf out of their book.
NUFC are the only British team on there to move up places, so I don’t see that as “underperforming”. It’s very difficult to increase revenues significantly overnight. We sell our stadium out every week, and TV revenues are as high as anyone else’s.
The adidas deal which starts in the summer will help. Ultimately, we need a bigger stadium, which will boost income in many areas. This WILL be addressed by the PIF. Whilst Mike is right and a turnover table, in isolation, doesn’t mean too much, I’m sure we’ll be up with Man City/Liverpool, but it may take 10 years.
True, but they reckon there may be a way round that. It involves two tiers, with a ‘glass wall’ between them, a bit like the Irish Rugby ground. It’s all about light getting through to the properties (which are listed) apparently. There are other options such as sinking the pitch lower, or building on the Gallowgate End (more likely).
As a Season Ticket holder, we recently filled out a very extensive questionnaire on all things ground related. I would love us to stay at SJP but building a capacity big enough to satisfy the owners’ ambitions may prove to be too difficult. If I was a betting man, I think we’ll end up relocating to the nearby Leazes Park. Time will tell
You’re suggesting the Saudi’s buy Leazes Park? That should go down well with non footballing Geordies.
I wonder, and this doesn’t just apply to NUFC/could happen to any number of clubs, is there anything your fans wouldn’t countenance in pursuit of Man City?
It helps that our second largest shareholder, Jaimie Reuben, already owns large chunks of the City, and is well regarded by the local authority.
As supporters, we can’t control who our owners are, but as long as they abide by footballing rules and other UK laws, then I hope they do all they can to make us successful. I’ve had a season ticket up there for almost 40 years and absolutely love Newcastle United; I don’t care at all what other fans think of us.
Moving to a soulless modern ground scares me, especially if it’s out of town. Given our current position and long standing ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory it’s not likely to happen to us in my lifetime, thank goodness. But the fight for the soul of English football is lost imo. It’s just a commodity to be traded by oligarchs, foreign powers & vanity owners now. Bring back flat caps
I wonder if the option is there to not catastrophise every result and for big messages and underlying themes to not be drawn from every game?
You are 2 points off a play off place. Teams get promoted every season without getting outstanding results against teams in the mix with them. It’s not compulsory and it tells you nothing about what will happen if you were to be promoted. That depends solely on what you do having achieved promotion.
Similarly, being “worse” than you were 3 years ago means nothing. It’s a different division to 3 years ago and all you need to do is make up 2 points and 2 places. The very definition of achievable.
3 of the teams above you have scored less than you and the GD takes no more than 2 games to completely change. None of that spells “rebuild” to anyone here. As already noted, 3 teams above you have significantly larger debt and seem to be doing just fine.
Newcastle are anything but underachieving. They’ve a long journey ahead but are exploring all the right things to expand their revenue base. It was, ironically, somewhat unfortunate they achieved Champions League qualification so quickly as that has raised expectations on what’s likely to be a decade’s worth of work.
I’ve watched previous Norwich teams and the current one as a season ticket holder and believe me there is a gulf between their performances.
You can fool some of the fans some of the time but there comes a point when they see through the spin.
Continuously being told things will change only to find they are empty promises has a disastrous effect on the match day atmosphere.
You can’t keep giving daft goals away every week and expect to be promoted!
They’re an established EPL team with the 7th highest revenue in England sitting 10th in the Division only 4 points ahead of AFCB who have a game in hand. Think they’ve lost 4 of their last 5 and worse, from memory, I think they struggle away from home. Like Chelsea of late, they’re under achieving imo. Building the revenue stream is all well and good but fans will ultimately judge achievement on results.
I say this as a supporter of a club which is a serial underachiever.
I apologise @twofifty when I disagreed with you saying we were ‘underachieving’ I thought you were referring to our turnover growth/commercial progress.
On the pitch, this season, I do agree that we are under-achieving. We’ve won one of the last 8 games, and that was against ten men. The injury situation has been freakish, but this is now largely behind us and there are some big games ahead. I wouldn’t say we’re in a false league position, but at the same time, I’m not unduly concerned. It’s a long game.
