Innuos Phoenix Net- any user here?

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I have an Ansuz Powerswitch A2 but it blocks my upnp access to NAS,-it works with roon. Trying the Innous now which allows all connections.

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There’s a review of the PhoenixNet in Hifi plus magazine. You can find it on google. Jason Kennedy reviewed the Anzus power switch before.
I understood that there were little differences between both for him. However the PhoenixNet was not fully run in. It needs at minimum 2 weeks 24/24 working to open, increase in dynamics, soundstage, and sharpen on transients.

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Thanks a lot frenchrooster,
Two weeks is a long time, wow…l‘ll check the review and see if it matches my findings so far😀

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Yes, it’s long, because of the big Sean Jacobs linear ps inside. Maybe 10 days.

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Michaelb would you mind pointing me in the direction of the thread in which you made several observations about optimum set up of the phoenixnet switch? Hope that’s okay - my search skills are poor!

Peter

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Hi Peter! It was this one: Optimal SQ config for Innuos Zenith / Statement with ND555 and Roon or not

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You are a super star Michaelb - thanks very much for digging this out - I’ll have a good read later.

Peter

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So decision made, the Phoenix has a new home, Ansuz back to the dealer.

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Well glad you like it……it should improve further👍

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Ok, add-on😀and this is really wired…the Ansuz played more 3D like and had better highs vs Phoenix …, gosh that frustrates me like crazy ( sure you know that feeling …) To tune it up, I replaced my expensive Tellurium Q Ethernet connected to dCS with the standard Ethernet cable that comes with Phoenix….bingooooo! That‘s it, strike! Now the Phoenix plays like hell! No clue why this has such an impact…
So here‘s the point: if you go the Phoenix way start with a standard cable (I’m sure you‘ll stick with it and save a lot of money😎)
Have a great 2022!

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Oh dear…….could not remember that they supplied a cable….rummage for boxes tomorrow😄

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:+1:

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I replaced a Melco cat8 cable with the supplied Innuos cat6………sounds better indeed, will leave for a week or so and swap around a bit more.

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Interesting. I ignored the cables supplied, in my infinite wisdom. Will dig them out the next time I venture up into loftland….

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Me too……though perhaps the Melco cable is not the best, will let it burn in and swap later with AQ Vodka.

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so my findings: my expensive Tellurium Q works great with Ansuz and Cisco 2960 but with Innuos it sounds “wrong”. Guess the Innuos doesn’t like “high end” cables:-)

@Gazza , @Michaelb: do you use roon? and if so, please what’s your setup?
Backround: my sonicorbiter i5 with roon doesn’t work with the Phoenix- it seems that it doesn’t receive an IP@. When connecting the sonicorbiter to the Melco port (LAN port) it works!
Thanks!

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Sorry not a roon user.

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I used Roon with a Roon Nucleus. I now also have an Innuos Statement which to my mind sounds better for Roon, but even better without Roon. I’ve kept the Nucleus to see if I continue to use Roon now and again either for Roon Radio or the daily recommendations or even just for guests, but so far simply haven’t, so will probably end up selling the Nucleus, which sounded better than the previous solutions I tried.

All that said, I’m not sure why your Sonicorbiter isn’t working and can’t see why it shouldn’t. Have you tried restarting your router (while leaving everything else going, including the PhoenixNet)?

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Thanks for your insights Michaelb!
So it’s good to know that a nucleus works with a PhoenixNet:-) Sounds like my next project …
I agree 100% with your findings- upnp direct without roon sound “better” (but this is a different discussion ;-))

And yes, I tried to reboot the connected router, tried to power off switch, reboot sonicorbiter many times, even tried to re-install the OS of it… but I must say I don’t understand that problem since sonicorbiter works when attached directly to router and works as well when attached to Melco.

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I’ve stopped resisting the urge and have arranged for a trial - a PhoenixNET should be arriving later this week. The gains from the ADOT fibre kit made me think this may be worth a go as the final piece of the network jigsaw to replace the EE8…

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