Kudos Titan 606 positioning

Very stylish room.

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Thanks Peter. I love you too. :green_heart:

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xvx

Listening room is 4.5 mtr x 4.3 mtr, speakers firing across the room.

23cm from back wall, 2 mtrs apart, LH spkr 120cm from side wall, RH spkr 65 cm from side wall

Rack is between the speakers…use to be speakers firing down the room, rack where it is now…prefer current set-up. Speakers approx 35 cm from rack. No toe in, I think they are designed to be listened to ‘off axis’…

Sounds pretty good to my lugs…

My advice is to try out different placements as you are able to, they are quite forgiving speakers in my experience…if they work out - great, if not then you know to try out others.

Good luck and let us all know how you get on :crossed_fingers:

(Nice dog)

edit - I think the 250DR will drive them well, I have had a NC250.3 on demo for 7 days and it was fine.

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Tehe…:wink: Enjoy your weekend Peter

Issue I have is there is no wall to the right-hand speaker as that’s where the doors are.

I’ll happily add GK panels if needed.

It may be worth scanning through this thread, in particular the various guides.

Bear in mind that what suits a particular room is specific to the room and of course the speakers - and it is possible that there may be more than one solution that works.

Did this last night and distance between the two cabinets is 235cm (screen is wider than I first thought).

Agree re “potty” statement, I’d likely put my back out at some point !!!

Another option is to get them at bang on 200cm (or whatever works best) and then shrink the size of the projected image so that it doesn’t us up all of the screen.

Did you consider on wall or in wall speakers in that setting?
I’ve not read the whole thread to be honest, but going off the title is this primarily a case of trying to make a whole room fit in around a specific speaker.

The 2m distance apart recommended by Kudos can only be a preliminary guide, perhaps a starting point, unless they have different suggestions for different sizes/shapes of room and listening distances as these can have very significant effects and what is perfect in one room may be far from perfect in another - and other factors have to be considered, such as the screen in your case (which of course itself might be moveable). I agree symmetry is important, though asymmetry can work (it is surprising how many setups are significantly asymmetrical, as seen in the “views from listening position’ thread), and earlier reflections from a nearer side walls can be mitigated to some extent. HH’s suggestion seems reasonable for an audition. If you were to buy you can play to your your heart’s content - and if different positions work better for film or plain audio sufficiently to be worth the effort then there a moveable base could be worth considering for the long term.

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Interesting…if I remember correctly, Linn advise to not use the same distance to side walls.

Odd, as for best sound balance symmetry can be quite significant – but then, of course, it depends on how symmetrical the room is! I think more important than symmetry generally is not being close to side walls, and if speakers have to be close then having something acoustically absorbent or well diffusing at the reflection point(s).

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Thanks very much for the measurements.

I think I’ve got a good positioning now as got the following:

  • 200cm between speakers
  • 20cm from rear wall
  • 55cm from left wall

I’m losing about 10” off the projector image but it’s not the end of the world.

I’ve set my B&Ws up in these positions (image below) and it fixes my issue of the left speaker being in line with the new rack position.

Only issue I’ve got now is I’m half on / half off the rug.

Only a home-demo will tell.

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Great, looking good…i think it should work…you can fine tune distance from wall as reqd…

I am sure you will find a creative solution to the rug…

:crossed_fingers:

FWIW I have had the 505 a few weeks now. Mine were a month ‘old’ when I bought them so have still been maturing in sound, opening up and balancing across the frequency range.

I have them 20cm from the back wall to the edge of the timber side panel, so probably nearer 23cm to the actual back of the speaker. They are exactly 2m apart and around 2.5m to my ears. I found getting them exactly level important, with no toe-in.

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These speakers are very revealing and small changes in position can make a big difference. I would experiment.

My speakers are 2.6m apart and 4m from listening position (not ideal). They are now 14cm from rear wall.

So far I have:

  1. Removed them from stone plinths and now spikes into wooden floor = more rounded and coherent sound

  2. made sure the speakers were 60cm from each side wall and symmetrical = improved sound

  3. I just added a 555PS and although amazing, something was not quite right. I moved the speaker back from 20cm to 14cm = cleared up the sound

  4. next step to to move the rack to the right and speakers a little closer together and give them breathing room.

Good luck

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Sounds a good plan Richard :+1:t3: Enjoy Peter

I’m eyeing-up the knife-rack already :slight_smile:

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Dangerous territory… :woman_shrugging:

or just pull it back 15’’ or so into the room… or rotate it 90 deg (if narrower) :thinking:

First off, brilliant speakers! I have had mine for about 6 months now and every day I am amazed by my system.

For me 25 cm from rear of speaker cabinet to wall.
195 cm between speakers
275 cm speakers to ears
68 cm from both speakers to side walls.

So far mids and treble are fantastic.
Re bass, double basses and cellos sound wounderful but some electric basses do not sound as they should (I am an ex bass player) probably how they were recorded. As far as drums go bass drums sometimes sound flabby and I cannot hear the beater hitting the skin so no front snap.

I am very picky so I am not criticising the 606s but probably how the LPs have been recorded. I can usually tell the make of bass from a record so I like it to sound as I know they can.
Further experiments on placing speakers is needed to see if electric bass can be improved. But these changes will be an inch at a time until I am satisfied.

All in all fantastic speakers (i dare not try the 808s) :grin:

I’m forced to keep my 606 not less than 60cm from the rear wall. I’m afraid that I never heard the real bass slam they are able to perform :thinking: