Naim Discontinue Active Systems..?

Yes, Naim made a SNAXO 242, specifically made, (tuned), for the Kudos Titan 606 and you had to order it as such.

However, externally, it is identical to the standard SNAXO 242.

DG…

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Thank you @NeilS . So the Kudos Titan SNAXO is significantly different to the earlier SNAXO’s, for Linn and/or Naim speakers, then - it its crossover setting values…?

I had previously understood that a 2 way SNAXO for Naim speakers worked with any of Naim own 2 speakers - such as the IBL, SBL or SL2 - ??

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Correct - the IBL, SBL, SL2 & Credo had the same crossover frequencies & levels.
The Titans are different in both respects & were only available for 242/362.

Regards
Neil.

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That’s fascinating to read of Naim going to so much trouble to produce a cross-over for a marque with which Naim is not usually associated. I trust that it sounds good!

That’s very useful - thank you @NeilS :slightly_smiling_face:

How about the Linn speakers…? The Isobariks needed a 3 way, the Kan and Sara needed 2 way. Was thee any commonality with the Naim SNAXO’s…??

It has been a common pairing for the last decade or so.

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Again, the non Naim versions were built to order from the ground up. They all used the same bare PCB, but the components/values are unique.

Regards
Neil.

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That makes sense, to me. So I guess there is an implied ‘warning’ here, for those buying ‘pre-loved’ - that a SNAXO (or NAXO) may not be what you think it is. Unless its relatively recent and was (definitely) made for Naim speakers.

A return to Salisbury may be needed… :astonished:

They normally had some form of identifier on the back panel.

Regards
Neil.

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Yes, they do.

DG…

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It occurs to me that when discontinuing a product such as the SNAXOs, with no replacement coming (unlike changes to most other of their products), it would be a nice move if Naim were to declare their intention and allow a time window of maybe a few months for anyone thinking of getting one to put orders in. That would satisfy the potential demand from people who had plans but not got around to, and push the undecided to decide, while generating a finite demand for a final product run.

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Not sure that would really work… :thinking: Naim tend to discontinue items in fairly short order - maybe to avoid there being a never-ending ‘tail’ of orders…? See DR for the most recent example.

I know that is what they tend to do - and I understand it when a replacement is coming, but my point was to suggest that doing differently would be beneficial in a case like SNAXO, if they are discontinuing supporting Active so have no replacement in the pipeline.

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I completely understand what you say - and I wish it was true. But… its not.

All we know is that the current SNAXO is being discontinued… We need to wait to see what happens next… :astonished:

Could not agree more on this. Having invested an arm and a leg in Naim system with some future strategy in mind, I fear am left at the mercy of the Naim/Focal accounting team… continuously brainstorming. The trust is lost and that makes me very careful. What if tomorrow, I cannot ever service one of the units, for some sudden very “good” reason?

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Fortunately for those still keen to explore active options, there’s still Exposure. That would/will(?) be my avenue.

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The trouble is that this tends to hurt the dealers that sell a lot of them and double or triple their power amp sales. Of course someone is going to be fed up with this decision, but others that have no intention of going active :thinking: do not really worry about this option going. Must admit though I would like to hear my system in active mode

Not sure that is a good argument. They serviced my power amp from 1985 so why not a SNAXO. As long as Naim continue to honour the service of old components (of course within reason) then all should be fine for the owners, but not for dealers that do well with selling active systems

Agreed. Servicing would likely involve just Capacitors - which are pretty generic. Its things involving IC’s that quickly get tricky, to the point of being near un-fixable… :cry:

Noting what @NeilS said, about major changes being best done with a new PCB, I hope that Naim will retain the capability to make and swap the PCB’s, in existing SNAXO’s.

May be they will become like the 3xx and 5xx Phono boards are - not available new, but can be modified between the various specs. Mine were… :slightly_smiling_face:

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I do not know the composition of a SNAXO but is it really that complex. If it uses integrated circuits I would imagine not the latest generation ICs. I would naively think it is mostly discrete components and mainly components that do not get changed anyhow. Maybe Naim do some rudimentary checks to check the SNAXO unit, I.e. frequency response check. At least my NAC42 was checked like that without any changes as far as I understood

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