New ATC’s 19’s Have Arrived!

Well said Woodford :+1:

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The SOLIDSTEEL stands offer a very transparent effect mated to ATCs….

The ATC are very clean anyway and I found the SS6 opened them up,even more….

Mine have no filler yet, not too bothered as they are really nicely balanced soundwise and the imaging is superb…….

I do suspect a touch of filler might tighten things up even more but don’t want to disturb the balance unnecessarily

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I think that now it is not the time to let doubts disturb the honeymoon with your new ATCs, it’s an excellent loudspeaker that is still breaking in… Just give yourself and the 19s time to settle in and enjoy a lot of music. The time for further improvement or refining will come one day. If I may, just enjoy your music and live happily :slight_smile:

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Acoustic axis on ATC’s two-ways is half way between the drivers and ideally that should be at ear level. But although ATC design their speakers to have narrow vertical dispersion, there’s still more than 10 degrees of latitude and in a typical domestic arrangement, a few centimetres higher is unlikely to make a significant difference.

The acoustic axis on my SCM40s is a little below ear level, so I did try experimenting with raising them a little but couldn’t reliably hear a change. In short I wouldn’t worry overmuch about precise height.

Roger

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Yes, it’s like being invited to a first dinner in someone’s house and say : « hey, what’s that table?, it’s so ugly ! « .

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Just a joke, with some truth here

ATC SCM11 (temporary residents a couple of years ago) on my SS6 stands.

However, my long-term S+S Mu2s were developed by Brad Serhan and Morris Swift with the SS6 as an integral part of the overall design. I was in a a well known former church demoing some other gear and the kind dealer put the SS6 under my Mu2s….so guess what happened…(in Sept 2021)…The Mu2s had replaced some white SCM11s the year before. 84db so they need an amp with ‘grip’..

PS. They’re not normally this far out in the room.

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Yep then I had 11’s on 600mm

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We had the first production pair of curved SCM19 passive monitors in December 2013 and over the years have had several pairs since for our demo/display purposes. They’ve all sounded the same from new and after several hundred hours of use.

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Though my experience differs.. I bought one of the early curved SCM19s.. and sounded good from the start, but did open up slightly over the following weeks of extensive play (on open frame stands). Not night and day but in my opinion worthwhile run in with the mids… listen to some opera and orchestral and you did notice… but regular rock and pop I would be hard pushed to notice. Again I noticed similar effects on my earlier pre curved cab ATCs that used the same bass / mid large dome driver.

Probably fair to say on the later ATCs with the in house tweeter as opposed to SEAS etc. not particularly noticeable run in with that hf driver…in my experience

So for the OP I would strongly advise being an ATC customer since the mid 90s is before you tweak or adjust get a few hours under the belt of your ATCs.

Mechanical run in speakers is near universal on all dynamic drivers with suspensions…. From TVs to car hifi to smart speakers, computer monitor speakers to domestic hifi… what varies is the degree of run in effects and the length of time… it certainly is not some wierd audiophile thing… its more about materials and mechanical engineering.

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May I ask on the details of the redesigned top plate of Solid Steel stands and what is the new material?

@ryder They’re still in the full packaging. I’ve not yet used them….From my SOLIDSTEEL communications;

“Please note that a few months ago we introduced a new material: the top plate is now coated with ua melamine layer combined with PVC. The melamine surface—the one in contact with the Patafix—is significantly more resistant than paint and better suited to this type of use.”

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I find with my thin walled speakers the best overall results are placing directly on the top plate with out using the Patafix or blutak or whatever… and then bringing the speaker forward on the plate thereby redistributing the weight on the legs .. wasn’t expecting this.. but on mids revealing speakers it really seems to make worthwhile difference.

I did try some top plate/speaker decouplers… but I preferred overall after extended listening without them

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me too. may experiment more but i dont hit earth shattering volume / vibrations.

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These model specific stands from Audio Chic look really nice.

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Love mine. Various wood options, extra isolation levels, heights etc. The plinth is shaped for the speaker, here on SCM 11s.

They are pretty stable but light. I would take care if you had toddlers or big dogs etc they might potentially topple.

Bruce

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I guess some only want to hear only what they want to hear.

Audio chic, yes. But effectiveness? Not sure honestly.

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Yeah I think that explains it… That’s why perhaps some ignore general advice and observations that is pretty much defacto out there as they are determined they know best and most others who don’t agree with them are somehow delusional … anyway it’s a free world.

Yes, some of these 3-legged stands do look great. Nevertheless, based on my experience, hifi furniture which looks great but not optimised for sound quality may be lacking by a little or a lot depending on the design. The material used (wood vs steel or aluminium) will slightly alter the sound.