I have 4 or 5 daily wearers by Breitling and Tag. This purchase will be for occasional wear and special occasions.
In that case, go for it. To me, the 41mm DJ is too big for the type of watch. It just looks OTT. I think the Omega De Ville Tresor is so much nicer.
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Rolex have a unique business model. My official retailer receives a delivery from them each month. Apart from specific pre-orders, they do not know which they are getting.
This can lead to opportunities, and ways to avoid waiting lists. Earlier this year, I phoned my Rolex retailer on a separate issue, and mentioned that I liked the black/rose gold Yactmaster. He said they’d received one in from Rolex the previous day, so I went down and bought it on the spot. So, there are ways of avoiding waiting lists, but you need to be lucky and I would recommend building up a relationship with the retailer.
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@Andyblain
Thank you for that and like the styling of your watch. 
I’ve read all about these dealer issues and although I bought a Tudor from my AD it’s now a Rolex Boutique.
When I bought my watch it was in the case but I noticed a mark on the case they apologised and as I was going to leave they said they could get another one quickly and would leave it all with its stickers and in coffin for me examine.
I was delighted and the shop manager did the bracelet adjust for free and gave me a goodwill discount for my inconvenience.
When I sometimes walk past the shop the Manager and assistant whoever sees me past the “ Doorman” still wave.
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Very nice timepiece there Sir. Well done! 
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I like the basic submariner but there is a very long waiting list. That said I already have an old Tudor submariner from my Dad and a men’s date just that my mother owned, both fully serviced. Her lady date just watches were serviced and given to my daughter. I put myself on the waiting list for the Rolex submariner but let’s see
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With a fair wind - reckon you will have the sub within 10 months
The few thefts I’ve read about in London have involved a team of thieves working together. They’ll lift you up, carry you to some railings, pass your arm through, and the watch is removed. Put up a fight and you’ll regret it, and still be minus your watch. They know what they’re doing, know their targets, and won’t think twice about maiming you.
A friend who has a serious watch collection told me that in London there are gangs who pay waiters in expensive restaurants for info in real time.
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Wow best not live in London then. What a scary world it’s becoming.
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Also have a Seiko but what does the 23 jewel marking mean?
It’s the number of jewelled bearings in the movement. Very small rubies (grown in a lab) usually as the bearing thrust pad on moving parts.
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Having read and reflected on the various comments I think I’m increasingly drawn to a Grand Seiko or maybe even an Omega. My current Seiko for everyday, and the other for those special occasions.
Presumably Seikos aren’t targeted by thieves in the same way that Rolex’s are? How about Omegas?
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Can’t speak for London…however never had any ‘issues’ with Omega or Seiko watches… 
(I avoid London, its’ on my no-go list…)
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I wouldn’t let a bit of fearmongering put you off. If you want a Rolex, get one. If it gets nicked, claim on insurance. You only live once. Rolex is the most widely recognised Swiss watch brand. Omega is the second. IWC, which two of my watches are, is 11th. If you get a Rolex and then get worried wearing it, sell it and get something else. At least you’d have had one. I’m sure you aren’t going to frequent dodgy places. That said, an elderly gent was accosted by two women in Emsworth (where I live and which is hardly a rough area) car park and his Rolex was nicked. Oops.
It’s a bit easier to be discreet when the weather is cold, as you have long sleeves. When it’s warm and you have short sleeves, the watch is much more on display, and something like a Datejust with its supershiny faceted bezel shouts ‘look at me’.
Just get an Explorer 1.
Job done.
Nobody notices it, and super versatile, casual or business. The ultimate under the radar Rolex….
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Looks very similar to my current watch but I do like it.
Out of interest, how do people find time keeping on the different brands of manual watches? My Seiko has been in storage for a few years until yesterday and it’s lost about 15 seconds over 24 hours.
Hi @Stu299
This is the usual and most adhered to certification for manual wind timepieces.
“ COSC
The Official Swiss Chronometer Testing Institute or COSC is probably one of the quality standard organizations you’re familiar with. The COSC is the best-known and most widely used watch certification group, certifying nearly two million watches annually. As the name suggests, they certify the accuracy and precision of chronometer movements. The COSC tests look at uncased movements and run over a period of fifteen days. During this time, they place the movement in five different positions and expose it to three different temperatures throughout a series of tests. Then, they measure the movement’s performance against the seven criteria mandated by ISO standards. However, ISO only develops criteria for mechanical movements, so COSC has its own criteria for quartz watches. To receive COSC certification, the movement must maintain accuracy of -4 to +6 seconds a day on average.”
Hope this is of interest. 
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I grew up on the edge of London (and when I lived there and near there it was a great place for music gigs). Nowadays I visit from time to time when en-route to somewhere - most commonly when flying longhaul, when a stop for a night or sometimes two on the outward journey is obligatory for reliability of connection from my source flight. Entertainment for our time there variously includes seeing the sights I never saw growing up there, a nice meal or two, and theatre or somesuch. I’ve never felt in any way vulnerable doing that - maybe I should, but I never wear flash jewellery, designer clothing etc, and I maintain awareness of my surroundings. But I guess part of that is familiarity: there are other towns where I have felt less comfortable wandering about.
Its good to be on your guard…for business and pleasure I have visited a fair amount of the world…
and visited many capital cities, etc.
As years rolled on, I found London to be not a nice place…(not unique to London).
I used to go fairly regularly, not now, only my experience of course.
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