Anyone doubting the ability of a small speaker to play prodigious tuneful bass hasn’t heard these two tracks through the Tab 10 Sig.
Wow…and wow!
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No, I haven’t but I have heard those tracks through my Spendor 4/5s….
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Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll try them on the slightly larger D2R’s tonight.
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I think after nearly a year of ownership I have found my perfect positioning for my Tabs in my Room. Taken a lot of moving ,listening, leaving , moving listening leaving. I think now I am content and after a year they are firmly broken in. My room has some nasty modes and nulls and circumventing these as much as possible has not been easy. I either have too much lower bass, but missing a big chunk of mid bass. Would only be on some songs that I had not played on them for a while that I could notice something amiss. In other places they could be a tad too bright. But know I have the perfect spot until I have to move them come Christmas to make room for the tree. I’ll mark out the exact placement before moving though.
The actual perfect place for them I can’t actually use. I found it and wow but unfortunately do to window placements it’s not practical as Mrs Gipsy would constantly knock them opening the window. This was tempting fate too much. Funnily mthr position I have now found gives pretty much the same performance but has a wider soundstage which I much prefer. I ended up with them much closer to side walls than I imagined, about 43cm at the nearest, 31cm away from the front wall to the speaker itself and a little over 2m apart and toed in so I only just see the insides. Everything sounds so much better, not that they have ever been bad, I just new I could get them better. Bass is full but not bloated, better midbass it’s still got a null around 180-200 but it’s been reduced enough to bring back what was missing on the tracks that showed it up. Treble is nice and balanced and seems to roll off much nicer. Have plenty of room around them to open windows and they feel less intrusive from a looks perspective.
Now I can finally stop fiddling I have done the best I can as I have tried pretty much every placement I can and I can’t change the room layout or add any mods.
One thing though is that it still strikes me as to how such a small speaker can give so much, they do sound bigger than their stature, have just the best midrange I have heard and hold their own across all types of music. Perhaps not ever going to shake the walls but Massive Attacks Angel sounds pretty damned good and doesn’t feel too lacking in bass. It won’t please bassheads but then I am not one and would have kept my floorstanders if I was.
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Nice that you have managed to work it out! Mine are close back to the windows, at about 15cm from real wall, I am listening near field on a computer desk, so I did not have much choice, but to place the desk near the windows with me facing outside, otherwise I would have to be facing a wall. I have put acoustic panels (after consulting a dedicated company) on the walls in front and behind speakers, so more or less these are in a perfect position now. I had these panels installed for my previous speakers, which were rear ported (Dali Rubicons 2), but they were too big for this room, needed a lot of space around them, the port was firing at the back wall and windows, so the results were pretty disastrous.
These are now long gone and with the tablettes there are no such issues. I never had issues with them sounding bright either, maybe those panels are helping a bit, bass is phenomenal also, given their size, and yes I am a bass head, but never thought I needed more, probably in some very few cases on certain tracks which I am familiar with and I know bass should be extended more, but I am definitely not missing it. One very obvious, well known example is Depeche Mode’s Personal Jesus, there is a double kick drum and bass guitar playing simultaneously, this very part went very low on the Dali’s, and on the tablettes it is mostly flat. Maybe a sub would help in those cases, but I am happy with them as they are now. Very special speakers those tabs.
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I found this comment about length of time to get the best position for the Tablette 10. I have had mine for over 3 years and still feel that I have not got them positioned suitably for me. I listen in a room roughly 19ft by 9.5ft, across the narrow width. They have been anything from 1.5m to 1.9m apart, 15cm in from the rear wall, toed in and pretty much square but I still can’t seem to get it right. My seating position is roughly 7ft away.
In the end I think they are bass light, so again I will consider alternatives I think. They are a great speaker but after this time reluctantly not for me.
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If I could have dedicated more consistent time it would have been a day or so not a year. So is life.
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Plonk and play for me & perfect bass. It just goes to show what a finely tuned ‘instrument’ the room is.
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Oh and BTW those tracks from Miles Davis do sound outstanding in my modest system! Great bass!
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Tell me about it. Struggled with 4 sets of speakers so far, in the end have up with floor standers in favour of the Tabs and still have some but greatly reduced issues. I still bet bass reading at 30hz and below, which the Tabs I don’t believe can produce so has to be room resonance.
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One of the teeniest tiniest things about my beloved Tablette 10s that I’ve always felt slightly less than 100% positive about - in fact the only thing I’ve felt less than 100% positive about - is the ProAc labels attached to the bottom of their grilles. I’ve sometimes thought of asking ProAc to supply me with a label-less pair but never got round to it. It just seemed too petty.
So today I girded my loins, crossed my fingers and took the challenge full on….
PS, thanks to @Richard.Dane for reopening this fine thread.
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Such is the mystique surrounding the Tab 10S the post has magically reopened…
One week until they have a 300 to contend with here.
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Edit - HH was typing synchronously with me so all is explained.
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No mystery Graeme, I simply asked Richard to reopen the thread.
Good idea Nigel. Debadging the grilles finishes them off nicely. Very Kan like in appearance from a distance.
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It’s ok. I don’t actually believe in magic.
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Yes, very Kan-like, and they look fab on those stands…
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Which is all thanks to you of course! The last pair made.
I owned Kans for around ten years and while they may look similar - they are exactly the same size of course -the Tablettes are just so much better. When the stands arrived last year, to replace the much more in your face Solidsteels (which are anything but solid) that I had initially and which Mrs HH really did not like, the first thing she said was how much they reminded her of the speakers and stands I had when we first met. That was 1984 and things have pretty much gone full circle.
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