Orkestras sit just below the ultimatum range and they may well be on a par or even have a broader range then the XLS being a floor stander
The XLS’s are pretty expensive these days
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I paid $10k think they’re considerably cheaper in the UK.
The XLS’s are now $12k , 7 years ago I paid $7k.
Nuts these days in Aussie
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Are you able to audition the new Neat Momentum Jet stand mounts - the Momentum J-S? Although from the Momentum range they have a large amount of Ultimatum DNA in them. People who heard them at Hifi shows thought they were v special. Released in September - £5k for the stand mount version ( there is a floorstander as well)
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Good point crispyduck yes saw them about to be released
Be interesting to compare to orkestras
Neat range kind of getting a bit crowded albeit different designs but makes it harder to make a decision
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I just noticed the Motive range is now discontinued. So that might make choices a bit easier? They do seem to release new models quite frequently, I don’t think that’s just me!!?? Good job they’re almost always well received 
Didn’t realise that gthack
Yes agree that makes selection a bit easier at the lower end
The Petite and Elites have blown the Motive range away . I’m a big fan of the Petite Classic I must say
I guess at some stage they may bring out an upgrade to the Ultimatum range, been a long time although they might just leave alone for a while longer
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I hadn’t noticed till I looked
It was the Elite or Mystiques I heard at Tom Tom on the end of all the 200 and 300 NC gear - very nice indeed.
I love my Iotas and SX3s, but the Neat Classic range looks lovely, as does their Strata range that @QuickSticks is listening to.
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maybe consider a try of a new Danish product, the Clarity 6.2 by Radiant Acoustics (collaboration between Purifi, Nordic Hifi and Hifi Klubben with Peter Lyngdorf). But only worldwide online sale with 30 day return possibility.
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I think we have a lot of options to explore from Neat Acoustics before I start drifting around the unknowns Dico😉
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It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Ekstra’s if you get a chance to demo a pair, they were slightly above my budget when I did my auditioning for a new set of speakers earlier in the year but heard the then new Elite Classics and they ticked most of my boxes and sat well in my lounge so they were an easy choice.
They did however take a good length of time (Neat recommend at least 200hrs) to reach their best I think it’s something to do with the EMT tweeter so be sure your demo model of the Ekstra is well run in as I think this uses a bigger version of the same tweeter fitted to the Elites.
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I’m not sure that I will. I think I’ll be limited to Ministra’s (currently in the room), Magistra’s and possibly Orkestra’s. If I go Ekstra’s it will be a judgement call based on what I hear from the others.
I was surprised that you ran those stand mount speakers with your 500 system (heard them in Harry’s) but was more surprised when I actually heard them. They did sound spectacular.
By the way, bet you miss the CD555. 
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Bugger still hasn’t delivered the 300 system he promised when I was in hospital either. 
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@Pete_the_painter @Mike_S I didn’t run the Neat stand mount XLS’s with the 500 system , I had the Floor standers ultimatum XL6’s which were the best speaker I’ve ever had. 500 system certainly did them justice.
I can’t quite remember how the XLS’s came into being ( I know I had them in a second system in my more spacious house in Birchgrove in those days) I actually think I had them on the end of an olive system CDS2/82/180 etc etc which eventually morphed into the 252/250DR I have today down south.
And yes chaps I still miss the CD555 so stop rubbing it in 
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Your setup at Harry’s had the stand mounted Neats, or maybe my memory is letting me down.
I think he had on sold the floor standers XL6’s at that point - certainly wasn’t my stand mounters XLS’s