The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

Hey … enjoyed your note - I was also there … in about '78 my pal with 12/SNAPS/250 said “there’s a new budget Naim in the shop - you should look into it” … so I went to hear 42/110 compared to the well regarded integrateds of the day, and fell in love … but couldn’t decide between the 12 and 42 for the pre - they sounded very similar to me on the day, the 12 perhaps more spacious and 3D, the 42 perhaps a little sharper … but thinking that I’d eventually move up the power amp range I opted for the 12/110 for a better future aesthetic match. Next up was an original SNAPS, plain box with red LED and no switch on the front. And then … and then … etc…

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Absolutely, and I’ll add that just because there’s a Statement it doesn’t mean the 500s doesn’t do it, so on and so forth down the line…

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Nice idea Marc - I can’t speak fro Richard, but I would wager if a fund page was muted, a new bband line would be appreciated to loose the o’head rubbish - where is Clarkson and his tractor when needed? Second thoughts IIRC cost was iro statement kit, so perhaps its Kent hops or grapes in a glass after all.
Cheers to all.

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Naim seem to have an increasing aversion to line-outs as they’re useful for headphone amps or feeding into another system. Surprised the new NSC doesn’t have one.

Well I obviously care. And I doubt I’m the only one.

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Some of us are sitting this evening listening to recently completed systems safe in the knowledge they sound fantastic and all our logos are green :laughing:

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Enjoyed reading through the 407 posts to date and enjoyed the enthusiasm expressed for both heading into the new product(s) market and others looking forward to the discounted used market for legacy gear! Fun times ahead…

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I bought a used 555PSDR. Yesterday. Living on the edge!

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It’s a fabulous power supply, enjoy it.

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Is the new 300 PS DR? Or different technology?

The new burndy is like 799 EUR or?

The NPX 300 incorporates a new transformer, which works with six exclusive Naim power regulators (DR technology - Discrete Regulator), providing a cleaner power to your system. Less “noise” means a better sound!
It works perfectly with the 200 Series products, and is also compatible with the NDX2 or even the NAC-N 272 – you just need the specific cables.

It’s a bit like two XPSDR in one box, one half powering each output socket, but with a switched mode power supply for standby.

You can see on the internal shot the lines of DR regulator boards.

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Just reverting to what I wrote above about Naim preamps, am I right in remembering that there were some (small) Naim pre and power amps made under licence in New Zealand to get round prohibitively high import duties on goods imported into NZ? If that is correct, did they have different model numbers (as I can’t think where those numbers would fit in the model range)?

Ah they had to double the electronics to support the two generations burndy and technology meaning one have to pay for both even if you only use half of it.

Well time will tell, as to how many upcoming new Classic devices use both PSU output sockets like the 222 does.

I’m sure comparisons will be done soon. Signals website says NDX2 with new PSU is well ahead of an XPSDR….

110dB has replied clarifying the purpose of each socket (one analogue, other digital and signalling)

What’s the reason behind moving to a new generation Burndy?

Hi all,

Glad that finally we can talk about the new 200 series. :slight_smile:

So lots of questions. Lets try and nail them:

Q. Does it support native Apple Music.
A. No as Apple do not allow third parties to do this. It supports Airplay2 and we are on the very latest library. We (and everyone else) are still in limbo if and when Apple will enable lossless streaming of Apple Music over Airplay using ALAC. The code our side is enabled on the 222 and all other current generation products.

Q. Will existing products get new features?
A: Yes - same platform, although lots of new tech in these products that extend the platform. Overall, Uniti, Classic, New Classic on NP800 platform will all stay in sync feature set wise. We’ve got a few nice software updates coming up in 2023 for all of you… even gen1 streamer customers.

Q. New PSU - cabling changes, et all. What’s the deal?
A: The original Naim PSU’s were designed in a day of driving CD player electronics, there were no power regulatory requirements and the power delivery demands were quite different. The new classic redefines the way an external PSU works and has two working modes: Smart mode for digital electronics like streamers and a dumb mode for future analogue only electronics. When in smart mode the PSU and powered device work as one and the system is all synchronised and safely hit <0.5w and <2watt regulatory standby standards. There is a user selectable mode so it can keep running all the time for optimal performance, but at the expensive of increased electricity consumption.

Q: Price is very high compared to the original NAC272.
A: These products are a big step up compared to the 272 and set a whole new benchmark. I’ve been running a full set of New Classic 200 series electronics for nearly a year now in various states of prototype and they won’t be given back to Naim HQ in a hurry :slight_smile: The latest NAP250 I am very fond of - a very musical amp, but some serious punch and drive.

Q Brightness buttons on the back of some products. What’s the deal?
A: Products can be linked together so they all stay in sync. For example the 222 and the new NAP250 can be linked together with an optical cable (so no ground loops) and all the visuals and standby states all stay in sync. Consider it a 2 or 3 box Uniti convenience wise.

Q: Why does the PSU have a 300 series name?
A: Maybe there are more products to arrive in 2023 :slight_smile:

Best wishes

Steve Harris
Software Director
Naim Audio Ltd.

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The new range look great. Very tempted to put in an order!

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Totally agree. My recent 200 system which I’m listening to now sounds superb, no need to change just because a new system is announced.

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That’s easily sorted.

Bit of glue and a bit of this. :innocent:

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