What are you driving and why would we be interested?

Will report back :blush:

I am very impressed. The A6 Avant was always my favourite Audi. This one has the exterior design and immaculate interior you expect from this model. If it wasn‘t for the seamless torque distribution and immediate accelerator response you wouldn’t know you were in an all-electric because the soundproofing on these cars keeps out engine noise in fossil-fuel powered vehicles. However the low centre of gravity with the batteries in the base of the car makes for cornering on rails. It feels like a quattro but this one isn’t.
There are a couple of things that I would add on to the configuration like remote parking or maybe even the sunroof with switchable transparency but these aren‘t must-haves.
The adaptive cruise control with lane detection is essentially fully automated driving. For legal reasons it will give a yellow warning lamp every 30 seconds to make sure you are awake. If you tap the steering wheel it will take over again.
The VW Group’s weak point is the software so there are a few quibbles with connectivity and satnav but they aren’t dealbreakers and the main thing I took away from our first long journey was that we arrived completely fresh and relaxed.

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Thanks. I do like the look of it.

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Like mine, very much fun to drive

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Really need a what were you driving thread but looking for a pic of me at age 20 ish I came across these.

Not me in the photos but the mates I ran with, I’m in mine taking the photo’s.

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Drove from Munich to Frankfurt cruising at 130 kph where possible. Average electric consumption was 16 kWh which in this car with a 82 kW battery translates to a maximum range of approximately 450 km.

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That’s only 285 motorway miles
At similar speeds I can towards 400 motorway miles and that’s in a bigger estate car with a 6.2l V8 and it will only take me about 5 mins to refuel and I’m off again

I think the EVs are good for people driving locally and have their own driveway to facilitate charging
Then as we are on an audio forum there is the sound. my V8 makes a noise most DBL owners myself included would be proud of, I’m not getting that from EVs

There is of course a practical issue whereby most cities and towns comprise of rows of terraced houses, who cannot have their own dedicated charging point

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I appreciate the residential charging problem.

As to stopping, I have discovered that I can drive long distances in an electric car without getting tired, simply because I take breaks of 10-15 minutes every 200 miles or so. It‘s a different mind set.

And electric sports cars can generate a sporty sound for people who like noisy cars.

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This closely follows government and road safety advice for good practice when driving long distances to stop every 2 - 2.5 hours in order to rest the brain and assure safe driving.

When driving the EV, experience shows that we do this in order to grab a tea/coffee, meal or for a natural break. The “trick” is simply to ensure that we can charge the car when we need to stop. These days, we don’t need to add any extra journey time for charging the car, as we need to stop anyway for the reasons listed above. And we had to make those stops when we had Diesel cars and petrol cars.
On the other hand, I have to stop after about 40 minutes when driving the GR Yaris, as my ears are bleeding and the adrenaline rush has given me the shakes by then :rofl:

I find this EV/Hybrid/Petrol/Diesel is good while Diesel/Petrol/Hybrid/EV is bad argument to be a bit pointless. Each has its respective strengths and limitations, depending on the driving duty cycle that you want the vehicle for.

In the early days of EV’s, we all expected EVs to be used for short, local journeys (often as a second car) but Elon Musk transformed that view by showing how EVs with the right fast charge network are superb for very long journeys. On a very long journey, EVs win on both refinement and “fuel” costs, and I say this as someone who used to make and drive Rolls-Royces & Bentleys.

On the other hand, I’d pick a Diesel with automatic gearbox every time if I was doing a lot of towing.

Show me a decent country B road on a sunny day and I’d grab the keys to a petrol car, ideally a non-turbocharged one at that. I have yet to hear ANY car engine that sound remotely as delicious as a GMA T.50. The only engine that I hear come close is one of the Rolls-Royce Merlins that fly overhead where we live.

Whatever you drive, enjoy the journey.

Best regards, BF

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Mine’s there somewhere…..

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Is that Brooklands? I have only been to the banked bit near Tesco,.

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Yes, Brooklands indeed. If you haven’t been, there is so much automobile and aviation history here - a good day out.

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The bladder range is the limiting factor for me these days - and I suspect for many on this forum. Possibility this - and the fact that many of us are retired - makes EVs more attractive for our demographic :thinking::thinking:

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It sounds to me that the EV manufacturers should consider this phenomenon seriously and consider a new optional extra on their cars as the range increase - inbuilt car seat toilet…

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Genuinely, I believe that Rolls Royce have been able to offer this option for years.

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I trashed my first series Peugeot 2008 Allure (a Nightmare) and got this new Citroen C3 basic version that has nothing but the minimum options inside. If it’s not in the car It can’t break.
Btw It fits the colours of the neighbours nicely. :slightly_smiling_face:

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FWIW, yesterday and today I covered 450 km in the A6 Avant e-tron before charging and still had 25% charge left.

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After driving Teslas since 2014 (I was a pretty early adopter), when my Model S lease ran out in May I moved to a BMW i4. Overall I prefer it.

Upsides of the BMW: better suspension / roadfeel by far; better interior (I did pay for real leather).

Upsides of the Tesla: better UI overall; better range; supercharger network access is truly a major upside but really only if one does “road trips” which we dont do (and can use our other ICE car for)

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Most of the Tesla superchargers in Germany, Austria and Italy are available to other brands. I charge there regularly.
Our last charge was at an Italian Ewiva station, 27% to 80% in 18 minutes.

Here in the States we are getting there . . . but there’s also some movement by some local governments to not renew Tesla’s contracts at some public areas and have the chargers replaced by other systems . . . it’s too much of a mess here in the States and just getting worse re EV infrastructure :frowning: