Is there even a point to letting it live on in any form? I think not.
Richard said that he might edit it and then reinstate it.
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It could actually be a good resource for CC companies investigating/verifying the situation. Though it obviously must comply with all forum rules.
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Just playing devils’s advocate but…I doubt Naim Audio wants to play a role in that via these forums. To my mind the Spectre thread is damaged goods and has no real value for the forum at this point. I sympathize with those who have to deal with recovering their payments, but it’s not Naim’s problem. I say that to point out I wouldn’t be surprised if the thread doesn’t come back, or comes back edited of the scurrilous parts and closed to further discussion.
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Given the number of cable threads that we have had and that there is nothing we can do apart from extend sympathy and await news on all things WH, would it be more helpful to old lags and newbies seeking guidance to have one broad cable thread?
After all, we have (a) source interconnects, (b) other interconnects, (c) speaker cables and (d) power leads.
There are restrictions on discussing some examples of (b) here, or on discussing where the lines are and where else to look, but otherwise all are relevant to people on this site. A broad thread may also keep looking forward rather than what is sadly now backward and may be less prone to irretrievable subject-drift,
Just an idea, obviously.
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It surprises me still that talk of non Naim cables is tolerated here. Personally, I prefer Naim cables. I did go off piste once or twice but for budgetary reasons. I don’t think I’d bother again.
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Ironic? 
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@ elfer It’s a fair cop.
There are some comments that I can’t resist responding to, and others have similar weaknesses, so a few comments can lead to a snowball.
I tried suggesting a redirection to a different thread, but it still left @Richard.Dane with an unreasonable amount of editing and tidying to do.
@Paul52135 - I take your point and am grateful that Naim are not as restrictive as they could be.
After all, Naim makes (or recently made) turntables, CD players, DACs, streamers, pre-amps, power-amps cables, speakers and racks, plus various items containing more than one of those.
Not permitting mention of the existence of alternative products in these areas would make the hifi corner page a lot less useful or interesting - for example, imagine losing the Show Us Your Sondek thread after all this time!
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The reason I was after it last night was in case it was helpful for my s75 claim (which has just gone in).
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Thanks for the info, do you happen to know what they use for conductors? Looks like they’d be significantly more expensive then Morgana, I’m in Canada so with their sale WH comes in right ~$1000CAD, while AV options would be almost 3 times the price at ~$2700.
I happen to have a local cable builder that uses OCC copper & OCC silver for all his mid range cables & up. Have thought about having a custom set made by him, if its something he can do. Based on his other cables OCC silver would probably be about half the cost of AVO & OCC copper about a third. He also sells the parts themselves if you want to DIY, so have even thought about that route as well, as I do enjoy making cables from time to time.
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I generally stick with Naim cables, e.g. DC1, HiLine, etc.
They were designed to sound good with Naim equipment.
I have tried various Chord wires and other brands but in the end I always come back to Naim.
They just sound right.
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Here’s what is on the email I received.
I’m guessing I have about 50 hrs on the AVO cables and they are excellent. Much better than my Morgana and Chord Signature TA.
They sound faster if that is possible and are giving me a more emotional connection to the music. Not overly bright or thin like a lot of high end cables. And they don’t try too hard to add depth and space that isn’t there. Vocals are a revelation.
They are advertised as being as good or better than cables two to three times as much and they might be right.
It’s a fair point, but it may not the end of the matter.
I’d like the music to sound as good as possible for a vaguely plausible price, with no brand loyalty at all. As it happens, that leads me to Naim on most of my kit in multiple locations, as it has for years. However my aim has never been for it to sound like Naim per se.
On cables, I was lucky enough to get my WH cables before this catastrophe. They make my hifi make the music sound better, and that was what I wanted. I don’t know whether a full set of Naim Super Lumina cables would have had the same effect, because I am too tight-fisted to spend that shocking total cost on cables even if they are made (and recommended as better) by Naim.
As I understand it, @JimDog showed the same disloyalty and ended up with Naim cables only because, in his system and room, they sounded best to his ears. He has got Naim cables despite not ‘just trusting Naim’, and in much the same way that I have got Naim boxes. YMMV, as they say, and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Yes, I have tried cables from Chord, Designacable, BJC - and twice from Witch Hat, among other suppliers.
Neither of the WH cables I bought improved the sound of my system, so I sent them back.
I felt bad sending them back because I didn’t like adding that burden to a small UK company.
WH cables did suit other people in their systems.
But I did sense in dealing WH that the business was not run with great discipline.
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The biggest factor with cables i found is your speakers, but obviously, so does the gear you use, or should i say, now transparent they are, will normally decide the outcome of what cables you like.
Dull sounding system will like brighter sounding cable, etc.
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Nothing wrong with Naim cables, I still run many of them but I feel at a point they can become a restriction, depending on what your looking for. I still run their SL speaker cables & have no desire to shop around, I use to use Hiline, never personally had any issues with them but I didn’t want to have to worry about them so I swapped to the WH Morgana, didn’t do an in depth comparison, basically swapped them & didn’t notice any reduction of SQ, so just for ease of use they stayed. When it comes to the XLR’s, I don’t believe the stock ones are shielded, seems in todays environment this may not be the best design choice.
Thanks for the info, good to hear their also using OCC copper, as said above I’ve had good luck with OCC copper/silver in a number of different cables I own. Though, maybe its just me but I’ve looked at a few items AVO sells, & it seems they have a very substantial profit margin. I understand while companies such as Naim or Chord, etc have the prices they do but as far as I’m aware AVO is basically a one man show, who works out of his home. His cost of operation should be significantly less then a large companies, also selling direct so doesn’t have multiple stages of markups, etc. His prices just seem hard to justify to me.
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They certainly aren’t for the 300DR. On old threads I believe they were compared (with photos) to B&Q three core mains cable, or perhaps from the same reel 
Seem to sound OK.
With the demise of WH I’ve been looking for alternatives to SuperLumina for interconnects (we already have SL speaker cable). We liked what SL DIN/XLR did on our 272/250DR. Used prices for SL are up n up. Penny pinching I know.
Custom Hifi Cables do a nice budget priced range (Blue) which would fill the gap between nDAC/252 and SCDR/300 for us, preh DINs and OFC copper with shielding, a bit like SL construction but without the fancy vibration removal plugs. At the price I’m considering them.
Also noticed yesterday that last time I setup our system I put a GREY SNAIC between nDAC and 252 instead of on Stageline. Black SNAIC is on the StageLine. Oopsy!! Probably shows we can’t tell the difference and new cables are a waste of time pmsl
How did you connect the SNAIC between the DAC and the NAC252?
Maybe I’m confused by all our interim setups. It’s obviously a 5 pin DIN/DIN cable or it wouldn’t fit.
Are source interconnects always grey, or can they be black? We have some spare cables which came with used kit (our SU came with some cables).
Or do we have an old grey SNAIC (which would fit between 252 and Stageline). I think that would be a really old cable. Or maybe (shudder) something isn’t a genuine cable.
The cables we have in current setup are correct as per the link you posted on cable identification, the spares are upstairs in the SU box so inaccessible.
I don’t recall Naim ever making black interconnects. You can tell if it’s an old grey Snaic 5 because the pins would be in a 240° configuration, whereas the interconnects are 180°, ie all in half of the circle.
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