Your Watch & Naim

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How about a close up of that JLC at the bottom, Thomas.

Very nice, Skep. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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done :smile:

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Thank you.

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Lovely Reverso but I Iike the understatement look of that 147.8.37.S dress watch. Both beautiful pieces.

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I find such copies rather crazy and would never buy a $25 watch named Rolex, maybe sold on a Spanish beach.

However I’m pleased to pay $300-$500 for a Kraken, Sugess, Steeldive, San Martin whatever the Brands are.

Tons of people do this via Ali.

Nothing snotty about it.

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Although I’m not really a watch collector, I do own these two pieces, both of which I find absolutely beautiful.
One for its minimalist design, the other for its unmistakable Art Deco style.

The rest of my watches are essentially tools which I mainly use as altimeters.

Incidentally, I’ve always felt that the design language of Naim equipment, particularly the NAP500 and the Naim Statement, pairs rather well with the more classical Jaeger-LeCoultre designs.

There’s a similar sense of understated elegance and purposeful engineering.

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Indeed. Big difference between an homage and a fake.

There is no homage unless the original manufacturer has approved it.

That’s not correct IMO. However, an homage with the original watch’s branding is a fake.

I think a fake is where something is trying to pass itself off as something that it isn’t; it will bear the brand and model name of the watch it’s trying to pass itself off as. These are designed to deceive and are ghastly, the more so if someone has paid a lot of money thinking they were buying the genuine article.

An homage though is something that aims to capture some of the look and style of an iconic watch, while bearing its own brand name. I really don’t have any issue with these as they are clearly not trying to dupe anyone and some may well have their own character or story that makes them quite interesting.

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I will stick with my opinion of the meaning of homage.

ā€œ something such as a work of art that showsthe influence of someone or something, in a way that expresses admiration for them:

I will also stick with my opinion that the manufacturers of the imitations are not honouring the original, but are merely making a copy to ensure income and profit.

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Not something I want a protracted debate over, although I have quite a long background in the world of watches and have sold the best part of Ā£1m-worth. I reckon I probably know what I’m talking about.

Edit: to be clear, my point is that an homage doesn’t need the approval of the ā€œoriginalā€ brand. I don’t think we’re disagreeing about anything else (save that it can often be more of a cash-cow than a tribute).

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Spot on, Richard, and I couldn’t agree with you more.

So this is a homage to some of you to me this a complete rip off of the original. Although not technically fake it’s certainly flirting with it. Shocking really.

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What’s wrong with you folks? The British ripped off the Chinese for over two centuries copying their pottery and china and nobody lifted a finger, now you’re all up in arms because of some poxy watches.
Chill out!:smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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I’m perfectly chilled, thanks.

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As am i

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Yes, and there’s the dichotomy with regard to homages - the closeness of the design and (for me) whether or not the original is still a current or readily available watch.