And Stephen dancing with antennas on his head.
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I know - but Iâm not!
It is a real pity that so few people seem to blind test, as that removes any risk of autosuggestion from the equation, and so we can really learn what cables make a positive difference on what systems. Yes there is sometimes consensus, but that is not definitive, and oddly sometimes people change their minds over time - and I donât think our oscillating companion Stephen Tate is aloneâŚ
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Think you guys might need some sleep, although it is rather entertaining.
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Who says 
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Are you HAL ? ( see 2001 space odyssey)
Actually if heâs any good he will tell you the minimum temperature the meat must reach for food safety, and that you cannot do it by time because different ovens and different pieces of meat respond differently. He will also tell you that apart from that it is a matter of taste. And indeed will also say that the minimum temperature is irrelevant if it is a meat like beef that is not prone to parasites and food poisoning bacteria like salmonella is not endemic, and you have good reason from the source of the meat to have high confidence that it has not become contaminated, so you can eat it raw if that is your taste.
Just to be clear, my SUCCA group is completely legit, and not to be confused with a rather salacious organisation bearing a similar acronym.
Now, time for bed before Pedar stops us playing.
Nighty, night all.
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Youâre the one whoâs doing this nonsense,.but you donât seem to understand it yourself.
Iâve had the same discussion as this,.several times with you in this thread.
But I as OP am very grateful,.that you have stopped with yourâŚ
⢠âFully qualifiedâ
⢠âFully certifiedâ
⢠âFluke-tested-trollingâ
Which you were doing in 70% of your posts.
This was the case from your post No13,.to almost post No 4400.
And youâve written 262 posts,.itâs a lot if you think about what @frenchrooster asked you,see belowâŚ
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong,.but if anyone questions my experiences,or my knowledge,or my advice.
Well,.then the least you can demand is,that that person has tested himself what he is talking about,.just as @frenchrooster says belowâŚ
Just as with the example of Linnâs internal-cables.
There you question me,.Linnâs designated best retailer Karl and other Linn retailers world wide.
This just shows,.that you havenât tested,and have no idea what youâre talking about.
Because if you had tested,.youâd have heard the difference right away.
And then you also,.against better knowing,repeatedly repeat that I,.and all the Linn-retailers are wrong.
This without reporting,.how you tested and come to that view.
Instead you just writeâŚ
⢠âWrong againâ
⢠âWrong againâ
Then you shouldnât be surprised if irritation occurs.
Iâm very surprised you donât understand this.
/Pederđ¤
@frenchrooster,âŚIs this @Stephen_Tate with its new wireless-solution 
No problem @Nigelb,.itâs fun with a little humor at night.
See you all tomorrowâŚ
/Pederđ´
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If Morecombe and Wise were alive they would make a great comedy sketch out of this thread.
Phil
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If Sigmund Freud were alive, this thread would provide a lifetime of material for new research
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As an aside, the expression âWired Ethernetâ in that list is a tautology.
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Only if there is a difference to be heard. As Iâve pointed out, also many times, any effect, and its magnitude (and hence degree of audibility) likely will depend hugely on the specific streamer or renderer/DAC, and on the electrical environment in which the network sits, and indeed possibly remainder of the network that is connected. So it is perfectly possible for one person to hear an effect, and not another. It is also possible that the effects of different cables may vary with different stramers and renderers/DACs.
Some electronics - and the Chord Dave is one - have been designed with one focus on preventing RF having an audible effect - and with the MScalar in between the network and Dave there is a further level of filtering.
Hmm yes⌠like how big my switch is or how expensive my cable isâŚ
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Perhaps many of you should just do more of thisâŚ
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Please, please can we stop telling people what to do!
If you want to listen to music, fine. If you want to tinker, fiddle and tweak, also fine!
This thread is specifically about fiddling and experimenting with ethernet cables and switches, but people still seem incredulous that posts on this thread are aboutâŚ.errâŚâŚfiddling and experimenting with ethernet cables and switches! If that does not interest you, or you think it is barmy, why not read another thread, there are plenty in this place!
Dâoh, I believe I have just told people what to do!
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Exactly Nigel - it would also spoil what is the most amusingly bonkers thread on the forum. So many twists and turns, language misunderstandings and random thread drifts make it a compelling daily read. Keep it up folks.
Iâm off to listen to some music whilst i catch up with the latest musings⌠
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Not that night - I was playing music very late into night rather than more important HiFi tweaking duties! 
DB.
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