Source for this information? Maybe there is a long waiting list. Same as for the Solstice, but then this made people complain like five year olds just as well
Oh I see, difficult to distinguish
Coincidentally Simon Matthews design director at Naim / Focal is now ex director - heâs gone to B&W.
So whoâs âdesigningâ this I wonder?
Well B&W certainly can use a designer
Maybe there is a Tin Anniversary Muso range in the offing? That wouldâve made more sense i think.
Yes! A matter of opinion. The brand is looking tired and needs innovation. Enjoy your system : what it is is obviously what you want it to be.
If itâs a matter of opinion, then maybe it doesnât âjust suckâ
I would hate it if Naim became a different brand among others that already exist
Yes. Apart from lack of current upgradeability, what happens if Naim ever updates the 282 or 250DR? What happens if the buyer wants to add a phono stage? And if the buyer can put up with non matching boxes in order to upgrade, surely the trade in grey box will have to be discounted?
It may be a short term cashflow fix for dealers (if Naim prioritise delivering these over black boxes), but the dealer wonât get loyal customers coming back for upgrades. Itâs also against the ethos of good dealers who traditionally demonstrate a number of options, advise on alternative combinations and sell the best system for the customersâ needs. Maybe theyâll just sell these through Harrods and the new lifestyle Focal/Naim store channels?
It may sell, I canât tell, but if people want a non-upgradeable lifestyle system, surely theyâll go with a one or two box product (plus speakers), not a five box product (plus speakers)?
But hey, Iâm sure theyâve done their research, theyâve done their sums, and theyâve considered their significant long term customer base and decided its all for the best. Well - maybe not the last one but then, to quote the late, great Robert Paulson âtwo out of three ainât badâ.
Reflecting on this I suspect that Naim would ideally have liked to celebrate this event with a new range of products, 272/372 and perhaps 250-3 possibly in Uniti/Statement livery, but the current climate precludes against whereas repainting the NDX/282/250 was a relatively simple step.
Regards,
Lindsay
This looks like it belongs on the Death Star.
This is where.
Where does this say that the gray ones will be prioritized?
Didnât say it did but the grey ones are being or been built and people waiting canât get theirs.
Of course you did say that
Wouldnât be advertising if they didnât intend to supply.
So why push product that require DR and there are no DR units to service existing customers equipment.
Wow.
Iâm sure that Polarbear will be thrilled to read this and anyone else waiting.
They announced the Solstice and there was a waiting list of many months. It may be the same here. Or it may not, which is why I asked where you had the information from that these will be prioritized. But clearly you donât have any and made it up
I think the colour scheme is kind of sharp⌠but⌠Iâd never buy it for the reasons stated (inability to upgrade in future due to colour mismatch).
Strikes me as a branding vanity project that makes everyone internally feel good, but wonât move the needle from a business perspective. I also suspect these pieces will be much more difficult for resale or future exchange with dealers due to the colour mismatch problem.
The ones Iâve seen in photographs are obviously built.
I simply pointed out the poignancy of advertising a new product that requires the very DR units that are not currently available for long term customers that have been left waiting.
I donât get any other point other than you like to argue.
You saw five boxes from outside, I think. They may have stuff on the inside, or not. And there may be one example in existence, or they may have built one hundred.